Buzzer Beater: How Julio Cesar Chavez Kept His Streak Alive

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He wasn`t out at all, his legs weren`t even wobbly.
     
  2. Marcus S.

    Marcus S. Member Full Member

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    Dude was confused as **** watching the replay of the finish. He was not in good shape at all.
     
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  3. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where's your proof he's corrupt? Larry Merchant? Lou Duva? Mark , Steele wasn't looking at his watch trying to determine exactly how many seconds were left in the fight. He was doing what he was supposed to be doing, looking at the fighter, asking him questions, looking and listening for a response. Taylor was hurt to the point he didn't respond to the man shouting in his face. Steele did the right thing.
    Taylor was brutalized the last half of that fight. He was clearly the fighter that looked like the loser. The beating shortened his career.
    He was never the same after it.
    Maybe Chavez doesn't get another punch off if it was allowed to continue. But Steele wouldn't know how much time was left. Only thing he'd know is what he's seeing with Taylor.
    He did the right thing. Boxing couldn't afford another death in the ring at that time. Especially after Owen's , Kim , and a few others that happened in the 80's .
    If Taylor was allowed to continue and was killed it may have been the end of the sport.
     
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  4. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Like I pointed out on my post, too many times we have armchair fight fans who are very morbid and blood thirsty to realize that a fighter is in real danger to continue. I understand boxing is a violent sport but death does not need to occur to satisfy fans of the sport. Referee Steele was doing his job, looking out for the safety of the injured fighter. So Taylor climbed his mountain only to lose says a talented poster, that's the breaks, live to see and fight another day I say. Not fight on and get your brains scrambled just to satisfy some bloodthirsty few who later will be argumentative towards others who care more about human life than the blood that is getting spilled that is not even their own.
     
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  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Taylor was well ahead at that point after out-boxing Chavez for most of the fight, if it had been the other way around there`s no way it would have been stopped.
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mark I know alot of people believe the Chavez win was legit and that's fine, but I'm with you in all honesty. Maybe it's because I'm a fan of Taylor but I thought he was hard done by, Richard Steele was rumoured to favour Don King fighters. And just look at Bute vs Andrade 1, Bute was in way worse shape than Taylor was. And Bute was allowed to continue after being out on his feet in the final round, the bell rung not allowing Andrade to land another punch and Bute won.
     
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  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Watch it again. He's leaning on the corner post. He was out on his feet. He got up purely on instinct. If it wasn't concussive he would have answered Steele's questions. He didn't know where he was.
     
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  8. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    It appears that a fighter's well being was not important enough to some fight fans. It has to be the fight to the death mentality to be satisfactory, then these baseless conspiracy theories arise some 32 years later. Was Julio Caesar Chavez on the Grassy Knoll too? I know that Chavez acted alone in this one, no CIA operatives conspiring to rob Meldrick Taylor of his glory, but maybe Don King? Ha Ha. It was fought fair and square, all Taylor had to do is hold on to Chavez, the more determined fighter wanted the victory more, plain and simple. Case Closed. We do not need the defunct Warren Commission involved in this vintage bout, it was not murder, but allowing Taylor to get hit more could have been.
     
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  9. Saintpat

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    You don’t understand. What fighter wouldn’t be distracted from a guy inches in front of his face counting and asking if he was OK by his own cornerman climbing up steps. Meldrick had never seen Duva climb up steps before — he might as well have set off a Fourth of July fireworks extravaganza while dancing naked around the ring.
     
  10. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I do understand, I did watch the fight, even recorded it on my VCR back on March 17 1990. I am for a good fight but not for imaginary conspiracies, I believe in facts not assumptions. You know what assuming means? Making a Blank of you and me. Taylor lost, the other guy Chavez wanted it more, that's the breaks. Both fighters got paid, one went on to further stardom, the other one was beaten by Terry Norris and later again by Chavez. I am sorry but I never make excuses for any fighter, even my own favorites. When they lose I say the better man won, as an athlete in High School I always practiced good sportsmanship win or lose. I never created conspiracies to help my agenda, that is for athletes who are sour grapes. Lol.
     
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  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Questions? Question? He asked those "questions" not giving Taylor much time at all to answer, Steele was rushing the "questions".
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Wanted it more? Taylor was clearly winning that fight and was winning the last up until the last 30 seconds, Taylor was better than Chavez on the night.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He didn`t need to, he could have just carried on out-boxing him but stood in front of Chavez and still landed more shots in rd 12.
     
  14. salsanchezfan

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    To accuse Steele of anything underhanded here is completely unfounded and wrong. He may or may not have been the greatest ref in the world but his efforts were always forthright. Totally unfair to suggest otherwise.
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He rushed his questions.