Fury's Tank is Untested

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Consider his sparring contest with a 40 year old stiff Wlad who could no longer pull the trigger. He was not made to work hard. To Fury's credit he had enough skill so that he didnt need to maintain a workrate or move much in the ring.

    Now consider his fights with Wilder. Again, he did not have to sustain a hard pace for 12 rounds. Wilder is a one trick pony. Once you figure out that right hand it's a wrap.

    And Whyte??? Lol

    Usyk will make Fury work. He will force him to concentrate for 36 minutes. One minor lapse in focus and hes nailed. In addition, Usyk will force Fury to throw more punches. Otherwise he will get outworked.

    Fury is a very large man with a tank that has never been genuinely tested. I'd laugh my ass off if the big oaf was mouth breathing like a train against Usyk. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see Fury gas out and get rocked.
     
  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Yep Fury clearly has hidden stamina problems

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  3. MorvidusStyle

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    I think Fury has the best tank of any SHW, but it doesn't mean it's going to be better than a small HW or cruiser. It really shouldn't be better than a good-stamina smaller fighter by the laws of physics. So Usyk might be able to gas him, sure.

    But Fury's tank has been tested pretty well at HW I'd say.

    It was against Cunningham where he ground him down and that was a very active fight.

    Also the Wlad fight might not have had too many punches, but Fury was on the move the whole time for 12 rounds. Wlad said he expected him to gas so he could knock him out. That was his experience at HW that fighters gas quickly, but Fury kept it up for the whole fight more or less. So that pretty much demos his engine as it resulted in Wlad making a tactical error.

    Also the Wallin fight showed it as Fury was in a dogfight after the first few rounds.

    There is that McDermett fight where Fury was gassed but that was when he wasn't training properly I suppose.

    These days it's hard to know where Fury's endurance is too though, since he's heavier than ever and might not be during as much cardio since he's now a KO artist according to Hill.
     
  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    None of you ugly muffins have clearly ever fought before (sorry you're annoying me now, clearly a troll thread)

    A 200 pound man has to work twice as hard against a 300 pound man

    Usyk's gas tank is as good as Fury but when he's fighting a man twice his size he will still get overwhelmed. This isn't a bumbling Chisora or plodding AJ.

    Cunningham had never been stopped before the guy is game as anything and he was blown after 6 rounds. Wilder was blown after 1 round due to a panic attack. Usyk will get whipped up the body once and his legs will fail him.

    The energy input is the same from both men and the energy reserve is the same, problem is the 300 pound man of Fury's calibre can converse more energy he doesn't have to work as hard to defend or attack, come down the home stretch Usyk will be struggling.
     
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  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fury will gas. Fury's opposition to this point has not forced him to work hard enough.
     
  6. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    :pipi

    Go to the jungle and try to make a gorilla work and get your arms ripped off.
     
  7. ForemanJab

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    Fury has a very good engine for a big man. I don’t think Uysk will throw a ton of punches. Game plan most like will be lower output, pot shotting.

    1. He’s getting older. It’ll be very difficult to maintain his usual frenetic pace at 36-37.

    2. He doesn’t want to be in close quarters vs Fury. That’s where he gets clinched and mauled.
     
  8. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Klitscko, Wilder trilogy and Wallin fights coulde be enough to say ha has a good gas tank maybe not like Usyk and Joyce but however good. One of best around for sure.
     
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  9. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly, if anyone’s going to be having stamina problems, it’s the smaller man Usyk who will be ragdolled in the clinch for 36 minutes, not the big man Fury who is the one doing the ragdolling.
     
  10. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    So Usyk goes the distance with someone who "isnt a 12-round fighter", but someone who is a 12-round fighter will have his tank tested???
    Hmmm ok then, sure.

    The only test here will be on Usyks legs holding that fridge off of him.
     
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  11. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury will have problems with Usyks pace after 4 rounds.

    There is nobody that can prepare Fury for Usyk.

    People saw Wilder fights and think Usyk will be the same....
     
  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Although I'm not sure he will gas like you are, you have identified a real point of interest. It's not just the high volume of punches Usyk throws, but also the feints and subtle, constant movement. Fury's gas tank simply hasn't had to deal with that before, so it is an unknown quantity. Although Fury does move well for a 270llbs fat man, he doesn't move as well as the legend insists. It's inefficient and often for effect rather than to be effective.

    Essentially, Usyk throws more, feints more and moves better than Fury. These combined are even more of factor if the ref clamps down on the jab and grab. Anyone who just dismisses all this as a potential influence on the fight is merely masking a concern...
     
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  13. tinman

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    I agree. Fury's tank is an unknown quantity. Therefore, we cannot give a fully informed assessment of his tank. Which means those of us saying he has a suspect tank cannot really be proven wrong. Likewise, same with those saying he has a quality tank.

    Obviously, he has an inferior tank to Usyk who is a much smaller man. That's science at work. But for a man his size we cannot say he's got a great tank. And even if he proves to have a great tank for his size it may not matter because in an absolute sense, he simply may not have the tank needed to defeat Usyk.
     
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  14. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Interesting, you usually turn to humour when discussing Fury. And yet this thread provoked a serious response...
     
  15. tinman

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    I think we can all agree that Vitali Klitschko had a great tank p4p. He had a very good gas tank. Yet, we all saw that even a prime 31 year old Vitali was utterly exhausted after 6 rounds of war with Lewis. The human body has its limits. A man that size maintaining that kind of work rate can only lead to total exhaustion.
     
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