Anthony Joshua vs Ron Lyle

Tyson a wannabe badass? Lol.

 

Hasn't faced a puncher like Lyle? Lyle hits harder than Wlad?

 

Lyle beats him like a drum TKO late

 

Lol. Aren't you the "casual" guy who doesn't like CWs as HWs? Lyle was one of your CWs masquerading as a HW, and yet you give him a chance against AJ? Wow, you are a fascinating combination of rude, stupid, and hypocritical.

 

Cute story. I am a hypocrite? I think you should learn what word means kid. I guess you heard some grown person use it and now you use it trying to look cool. Ron Lyle was 6'3 220 pounds which means he is heavyweight by modern standards so nice try. I know what you are going to type. 6'3 220 pounds isn't a heavyweight right? Then Povetkin isn't a heavyweight. Wlad started his career weighing 220 so I guess he isn't a heavyweight. Wlad also got knocked out by guys who were around 6'3 220 pounds or slightly more which means he got knocked out by cruiserweights. Little kid you have to try harder if you are going to compete with somebody my intelligence level.

If you aren't smart enough to understand 180 pounds isn't a heavyweight but anything over 205 is then maybe shouldn't be on this forum or watch boxing anymore.

 

Lol, you are dumb as ****, little boy. Lyle would today be best suited to CW, as he fought at the same weight larger CWs do on fight night today. Or are you too stupid to understand rehydration? Never mind, answered my own question.

 

But really, the key here is you don't even perceive your own double standard, because you simply lack the intellectual heft. You focus, in this and other threads, on disparaging past hws for being "not hws". But do so, not by making the rational argument that all small, CW sized hws are too small for the modern SHWs, (and you're pathetic example of Povetkin just proves the point), but by saying a certain subset of them, those at 180 pounds, should not be considered hws. They made the definition of hw at the time, just as those in the Ali era did. For you to cut some out and not others is not only inherently irrational, it reeks of agenda.

 

Right that is your best answer? I proved you wrong and that is the best you can do? I said 180 pound fighters couldn't compete against modern sized heavyweights. Lol but you bring up a 6'3 220 pound Lyle and say he is cruiserweight. Yeah I feel sorry for you kid. I didn't ask was Marciano was considered a heavyweight back in the 50s. I told you a fact 180 pound isn't a heavyweight now. Ron Lyle at 6'3 220 pounds is still a heavyweight even by todays standards. Ali was 6'2 220 so still a heavyweight, Ken Norton 6'3 220 pounds so still a heavyweight. George Foreman 6'3 230 so still a heavyweight. Even smaller guys like Joe Frazier at 5'11 205 to 210 is still a heavyweight by modern standards. It is hilarious that you can't grasp that. But I guess you just need to find away to believe 5'10 180 pound Rocky Marciano could compete with modern heavyweights. The only one who has a agenda is you. The only reason you like Marciano is the same obvious reason all Marciano fans like him.

 

Let me paraphrase for you"blah blah, insult, insult, hypocritical, unexamined statement". All you did was prove yourself wrong, so good job at that. All those people you listed as HWs were closer to the size of a modern CW on fight night than the average Ring top 10 hw today. You know what, they are also mostly closer in size to the fighters you hate for your agenda driven reasons than AJ or Fury. No prob, just embrace and lean in to your hypocrisy and stupidity. That's what all the silly little kids like you do anyway.

 

Let me quote you. I type one thing and you type something else that nobody else said to try to prove your point. Again if 6'3 220 to 230 is a cruiserweight then Wilder is a cruiserweight since he weighed 214 his last bout. If 6'3 220 to 230 is a cruiseweight then Luis Ortiz is a cruiserweight because he was the size before he bulked up. Wlad was 220 when he turned pro and before he decided to bulk up. Wlad actually weighed 210 or less a amateur so I guess he is cruiserweight too right? Anthony Joshua weighed as low as 229 as a pro which means he was less than 230 so I guess he is a cruiserweight too right? Joshua actually weighed less than 220 as a amateur. Joseph Parker weighed as low as 219 as a pro so he is a cruiserweight too right?

Every fighter I just named still weights at least 40 pounds if not more than Rocky Marciano's 180 pounds. So just admit you aren't bright. You need Marciano to be your hero. To give your life a meaning and purpose. You need to believe that 5'10 180 pounds is the same thing as 6'3 220. Good for you kid. but you bore me. You aren't worth typing to anymore. Now go away with the other casual fans and Rocky Marciano jock riders I blocked.

 

Wow, the stupid just keeps coming from you, atta boy! So, you've been here for less than a week. You have a pompous name. You drop insults at the drop of a hat, and drop the hat yourself. You clearly are incapable of holding an intelligent conversation or constructing a rationally driven argument. I've seen your type come before. And they usually get banned within a couple weeks. Honestly, I suspect you are an alt, and doubly suspect I won't be seeing you here long.

To your nonsensical attempts at making points, there is not much to say. You are just misrepresenting and misunderstanding the nature of size right and left. You compare fighters who are giants, with great height and large frames, and are clearly much bigger men than the ones your agenda wants to big up. But you compare them at points in time where they have the smallest weight difference. That is an intellectually dishonest, variant of a straw man argument. But what else can we expect of you

And what's with Marciano? Fixated much on him? Did he beat up your granddather or something? He was 5'10 180. Frazier was about an inch and 20 pounds larger. Povetkin is 3 inches taller than Frazier and about 20 pounds heavier than Frazier. All three were of comparable style. If you weren't a blithering idiot, you could observe what that means, that modern fighters have progressed as much or more from Frazier's era as it had from Rocky's era. But since you are A irrational and B have an agenda to push, you will never accept that.

 

I'm seeing Lyle winning now. Ruiz style.

 

I see Joshua, not throwing combinations because he's "a new breed of heavyweights" getting knocked down repeatedly as well. Once that happens Lyle would finish it better than Ruiz did.

 

Lyle would crush Joshua and retire him right after the fight...