Max Baer chops down towering fraud Primo Carnera

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What have you accomplished in your life to call a HW champion "fraud"?
     
  3. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    I mean, he is a literal fraud in the most extreme sense, he is known purely for a sport in which he was banned in competing from certain areas for fixing fights. It's crazy to me that people are willing to rate a guy who fixed fights. Can you imagine if it came out that Fury had fixed fights before?
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The same allegation could be raised against a lot of other top fighters of that era, but for some reason it never is.
     
  5. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most fighters at the beginning of their careers have padded records in some ways. Do you find that satement controversial? You shouldn't.

    Joe Gans participated in a fixed fight. Should we stop rating him because of that?
     
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  6. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    It's likely because Primo looked horrible on camera and is from a country where the Italian Mob had the most power

    His lack of skills and nation of origin make his fraudulence so obvious that most people feel compelled to call it out.
     
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  7. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So every Italian is a fraud now? That's ridiculous.
     
  8. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Oh, man. I can always figure out which of you guys is Italian. I have like a radar for it.
     
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  9. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Woh woh woh gumba take it easy
     
  10. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well said.
    Hearing fighters called bums usually gets my hackles up.
    For all of Carnera's limitations as a boxer, the man never lacked courage.
    The mob, his manager and promoters deserve to be called bum's but he was an innocent party
     
  11. George forearm

    George forearm The forearm of George Full Member

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    Be careful man you could strain your arm reaching that hard .
     
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  12. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am not Italian though, you can search my posts history when I mention that I am from Poland.
     
  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Oof! Madone!
     
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  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You are completely getting the wrong end of the stick here.

    Carnera was controlled by the Irish mob, and they were very much an American institution.

    His Italian nationality had nothing to do with it.

    As for how he looks on film, he is clearly a lot more technically sound than Baer.
     
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  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Some great photographs, thanks.
     
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