Oleksandr Usyk and Muhammad Ali At Cruiserweight

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Ali and Usyk at Cruiserweight - Who Wins

  1. Ali by KO/TKO

    12 vote(s)
    21.8%
  2. Ali by Decision

    21 vote(s)
    38.2%
  3. Draw

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  4. Usyk by KO/TKO

    6 vote(s)
    10.9%
  5. Usyk by Decision

    15 vote(s)
    27.3%
  1. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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  2. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Just think about what you're saying ffs. You say Usyk is better than anyone Ali fought, but who the **** as Usyk fought close to Ali level?

    It's the same argument except Ali's resume >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usyk's.

    Usyk hasn't faced a great deal of adversity so far from anyone close to ATG status. Ali faced a great deal of adversity from ATG/Hof level champs.

    Ali is far more proven than Usyk. I'm not denying that Usyk is a CW ATG, but the reality is CW has not produced the same level of quality that HW has.
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Ali wouldn`t have beaten J weighing 200lbs.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Who did Ali beat weighing 200lbs, Cooper?
     
  5. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Cruiserweight is a bum division
    Anybody worth their salt cuts to 175 or fights at hw

    Yes Ali got careless and got caught by Cooper when he was extremely young

    Usyk lost rounds to a fat useless LHW bellew and also a shop worn, never that good Chisora

    Ali Fought against and beat killers
    Was he the favourite against Liston? F no
    Foreman? No lol
    He also beat frazier twice after losing the fight of the century against the brilliant and tenacious Smoking Joe

    The f..k out of here with your usyk garbage.

    Ali fought wars in the ring and overcame odds over and over again, while usyk gets creamed on for beating a bodybuilder who lost his mojo and never started boxing until he was about 20

    Seriously man, usyk is nowhere near Ali and he will never come close in such lists
     
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  6. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Ali was just a big bully in his prime. Its easy to look good against small and weak opposition. Patterson. Liston etc. Usyk on the other hand has outboxed giants. Prime Ali had poor technique and thrived on his size and speed against the small and slow opposition he faced.

    Its easy to look good when you spar kids.
     
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    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Modern CW is a much more skilled division than the 60's HW division. Its an insult to even suggest otherwise.
     
  8. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you think Usyk is slow and lumbering compared to Ali then you need to rewatch his cruiserweight fights.
     
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  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    CW operates at a higher level than bumville HW.
     
  10. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Take Ali's 60's run and flush it in the toilet. The eye test is horrible compared to Usyk.
     
  11. rinsj

    rinsj Active Member Full Member

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    Thank you
     
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  12. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    This is simply not true.
    Liston was bulky with very long arms, just not very tall. To call him "small & weak" is a joke.
    Ali beat a bunch of guys taller than him, & a peak powerhouse in a tiny, slow ring vs. Foreman.

    The one sided disrespect from extremists on EITHER side is absurd.
     
  13. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jim Brown was an infinitely better athlete than Ali. Better than any boxer until the new century, if not later.
     
  14. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Got beat thrice by Norton.
     
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  15. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There were better athletes playing American Football than Boxing all the way back to the late fifties. It wasn't even close back then, let alone now.
     
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