FURY CHISORA III CONFIRMED

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by miniq, Oct 10, 2022.


  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wallin is much more similar to Usyk stylistically but that might be the problem: it could give Usyk's team valuable film to study. Wallin is also better than Chisora and very tenacious: he could injure Fury and scupper undisputed as Usyk would be forced to take on mandatories while Fury recovered. Plus as Serge points out it would contradict the "middleweight" narrative and publicly afford Usyk too much respect.

    Ruiz's father said that he wanted his son to fight Fury on Cinco de Mayo, aka 7 months. Ruiz probably already has a contract with PBC to fight the Wilder-Helenius winner. And Wilder beating Ruiz would actually benefit Fury more from a legacy perspective, as it reinforces the levels difference between Fury and others in the division more strongly.
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nuts he's not ranked by the WBC anymore. He was ranked 3rd by the WBC after he beat Takam. I assume him being WBO interim champions saw him dropped from the WBC rankings. That's easily resolved if he's willing to drop the belt. Might not even need to do that if it's regarded as a unification fight.

    I'd love to see Chisora KO Fury, but he's never been a huge puncher, just a decent one and Fury has shown he can handle Chisora's power.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah it is and it must be because he's the WBO interim champion now

    But it's not as nuts as The Dosser being ranked #1 by the WBC coming off back-to-back stoppage defeats, one of which not remotely competitive, the other only so for a round or so

    Fury has never fought man strength muscled Chisora before

    The versions he fought were flabby back I only train on public holidays Chisora
     
  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Muhahahha. Chisora won the 1st round clear and spend all of his energy in that round. Bar second round was close, but that was it. Usyk won clearly and widely every single round after the second.
     
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  5. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even if I agreed with you that isn't the consensus, which is that Chisora won 3-4 rounds. The judges gave Chisora 5 rounds. Usyk's manager was worried it would be a draw. Chisora gave Usyk more problems than anyone barring Briedis (as well as going life and death with Parker x2 and Pulev in his next 3 fights) so either he's a good fighter or everyone else on Usyk's record is suspect.
     
  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I don't give a hot crap about UK judges that had Parker vs Chisora 2 a close fight, when that was a masacare with 3 KDs and Chisora won from 0 to 1 round.
    As far as general consensus, the people that can actually score a fight had it wide for Usyk.

    Anyone can watch the fight. Even the UK commentators were shut after round 2.
    No chance of Chisora won any other rounds than the 1st and you can make a case for the 2nd.
    And when was Usyk manager worried exactly??? The only thing he can be worried about it, is if the UK judges to not screw his fighter.
    And who the f***** are you, as that clearly is an alt account.
     
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  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't care a hot crap about reality either.

    The facts:

    Chisora outlanded Usyk in 2 rounds with 1 even but outlanded Usyk with power punches according to Compubox.

    Chisora won 3-4 rounds according to reviewers on Eyeonthering.

    Chisora went the distance, whereas Huck, Mchunu and Bellew did not.

    Chisora did not suffer a KD, Hunter did.


    Did Glowacki or Gassiev give Usyk better fights than Chisora?

    The only fighter who unambiguously performed better against Usyk was Briedis.

    Most had Chisora beating Parker in the first fight and the 2nd was a war despite the KD's. Chisora of course beat Pulev, which most also agreed with. None of these Joshua opponents were able to stop post-2020 Chisora in 4 attempts, or prevent him from making it a war.
     
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  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Firstable compubox is crap and everyone who knows boxing knows this. Second Chisora land more punches in round 1 which he clearly won, as i stated in round 2, and that's it. 10 round was even in punches, but go watch the fight, clear Usyk round.so don't try to lie.
    Just as i said Chisora won 2 rounds. Even crap compubox is backing me.
    Chisora won between 0 and 1 rounds against Parker. Just because he was acting lie lunatics, doesn't mean he was winning rounds or even doing okish. Parker demolished him. Every single fan, media, expert or so called the judges after that pathetic saving scorecards attempt.

    In Usyk fight, Chisora was competitive for 2 rounds exactly.
    Aj was way harder opponent and dangerous till the end. And he still lost 9-3 2x times.

    You cant compare Usyk at CW to his HW past prime version. He was also highly inactive at HW, struggle with injuries and so.
    He undergo hand surgery, suffer COVID twice and had to cancel his camps 2 time before Chisora bout, and he waa all but optimal in that fight, and he still won it easy.

    As far as Pulev fight, which was SD, that was Pulev win all over, and actually most people know it. If the fight was not in the UK, Chisora wouldn't have won that.
     
  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And again, introduce yourself once again and tell us who your acc is.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Ottomatic makes sense what with him being a southpaw and them having history with each other, but like I said he stunk the joint out in his last two fights and Chisora is a big name over here and Ottomatic isn't even a big name in his native Sweden.

    Also, Fury might not want to fight a southpaw prior to facing southpaw Usyk for all the marbles next year because he might think it makes him look weak like some feel it did when he demanded a tune up before facing Usyk which he's done twice now, once when he walked away from the fight during negotiations for Usyk vs AJ II, and obviously the Dec 3 date. ''MW'' Usyk is supposed to be easy work for him and demanding tune ups and facing southpaws to help him stay sharp and prepare for Usyk contradicts his previous statements about him.
     
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  11. Wasteman

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    He's got to be trolling us at this point, either that or his drive has deserted him because this fight does nothing to enhance his legacy, neither does it generate any excitement for me as a fan.

    That said, as long as he fights Usyk eventually, I'm not that fussed if he takes an easy fight during meantime.

    Still, Chisora III? lolwut
     
  12. Csonnyliston

    Csonnyliston Sam Langford P4P GOAT Full Member

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    What’s next, Fury-Seferi II?
     
  13. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Crap fight

    Rather have seen Hunter step in

    Would have boosted Furys CV too
     
  14. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you were intelligent you would understand that scoring is not an exact science and people will inevitably have varying opinions about a war that goes the distance.

    Page 110 of the Usyk-Chisora RBR provides this forum's scoring. Have a look at their scores.

    The fight was sufficiently competitive for Usyk's manager to believe that it could have been a draw in Britain. This shows that Usyk was not in full control of the fight or the outcome. Excuses about the condition of the fighters may or may not be true but if fighters are badly ill/injured they should pull out and we can't gauge how much they altered the outcome, if at all.

    "Chisora won between 0 and 1 rounds against Parker."

    Most on Eyeonthering had Chisora winning the first.

    Even with Parker's 3 KD's most had Chisora winning 2-5 rounds in the rematch.

    Most had Chisora beating Pulev in their rematch.

    If Chisora was as bad as you are trying to make out then at least one of Usyk, Parker and Pulev would have stopped him in 4 attempts. He wouldn't have been giving them all hard fights, two of which were highly subjective.
     
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  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm just annoyed, because I like Fury, and know he can definitely do more.
     
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