I have to admit that Wilder.....

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  1. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Despite me being a co-chair of the Bronze Dosser Fun Club, can we all admit that of the upcoming fights, this smashed up, one trick pony is actually fighting the better opposition?

    Helenius is by far a better fighter and has a better recent resumé, namely the win against Kownacki , than these cans Del Boy and the washed up, almost was Areola(who Wilder beat up)

    I'll give Dosser props on taking this fight opposed to these clown fights AJ and Fury are taking.
     
  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wilder was gone for a what? A good year? AJ is going to fight, just 3 months after he got a second loss in a row. No comparison at all.
    And we can bet highly that next year AJ will face like 10x better opposition than Wilder has ever face.
    Hell even if Wilder fight 10+ more years, he still won't catch AJ on opposition he fought.

    For Fury i completely agree, for AJ completely disagree.
    On top of that, where the ***** did you get that Areola fight with AJ? There was just 1 twitter post from some unknown troll, and neither Hearn, neither AJ, neither any of the reliable source have ever mention that AJ will fight Areola in December.
     
  3. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He ain't fighting Hrgovic or Zheili that is for sure. It'll be a soft touch like Areola I'm sure. Thought it was all but mads. Soz
     
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    It's a more dangerous fight for sure, due to Helenius' power and Wilder's chin which while not on Dillian Whyte's level of fine porcelain will no doubt crack if he's caught flush by a Helenius' right hand.

    But I'd argue that Fury is fighting the better fighter in Chisora. We all know Chisora was robbed against Helenius when they fought and I'd rank his recent win over Pulev as more impressive than Helenius' win over the hype job Kownacki.

    As for Joshua facing Arreola well that's obviously the worst of all 3 possible pending match ups. Arreola is way, way past his best and Joshua will no doubt be facing a worse version than Wilder or Kownacki faced.

    Joyce has called out both Joshua and Fury and willing to fight on a Dec date so it's not like Fury and Joshua don't have better options. I can understand Joshua wanting a soft opponent after his 2 defeats to Usyk but then why try and make the Fury fight? Fact is both Fury and Joshua are choosing unacceptable opponents. Wilder's while not great is as good as can be expected coming off his recent losses.
     
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  5. lordlosh

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    That's yet to see. And again Wilder needed a year, AJ is fighting straight away.
     
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  6. lordlosh

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    Yeah but Chisora - Helenius fight happen million years ago. On top of that if you wanna bring robbery. Pulev was also robbed, as the fight was on UK, and Pulev won that fight, by at least 2 rounds. Pulev when he was in his decent shape beat Chisora to the bone. Owned him as well.

    Helenius at least is on a streak, and beat an unbeaten guy, unlike Chisora.
    Areola is a dog**** no doubt about that. But AJ lost twice in a row. He ain't Champion anymore, so you can't compare that soft touch, to Fury soft touch in Chisora, who he already face 2x time time and beat him as well. It's the worst of all.
    Also AJ never intended to fight Fury at first place. It was Fury who calls him out, and then backed out. Everyone knows he has done it for cloud and to justify his soft touch.

    And again there is not a single indicator that AJ will fight Areola next. That was reported by just 1 guy on twitter, and he is far from reliable source.
    As far as Joyce goes, wanna made a bet that AJ will face Joyce, before Fury do ??? Fury may never ever step in the ring with Joyce to be fair.
    And let's not forget AJ already KO Joyce in 1 round in the amateurs, and schooled him in sparring.
     
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  7. Murderers' Row

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    So annoying I have to get up really early to watch this fight.
     
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  8. Furious

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    I'm a huge fan of how you say this despite us not even knowing who Joshua is fighting yet - you're nothing if not consistent in your hatred of Fury, i'll give you that!
     
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    So me, being part of "everybody" already know that it was AJ's team who didn't like the idea of having their guy raped again and made everything so the fight fails. "Facts", not fake AJ fans' stories/dellusions.

    To the thread: Helenius is a decent fighter, yes, better option for Wilder than Chisora for Fury, but some of the good guys already fought or are fighting soon, so Fury was out of many options. AJ ducked, as expected, Joyce confirm he's willing to fight, but honestly stated he won't make it for December, that is to be respected. But anyway, those next fight may mean something depending on who're the fights next to them and we'll see.

    As for AJ - it's not easy for him. The guy will never dare to fight someone out of top 5. He'll be "great" for advertisement, ballooning how great he is and that's all he'll ever have from now on.
     
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  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You were saying, what exactly?
    [url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/who-is-at-fault-for-fury-aj-not-getting-made-poll.693425/page-5#post-21960957[/url]

    Who was Fury supposedly fighting at the first time he decide to comeback ? Who is he fighting now ?
    Yeah i know that some people are stupid, but really that stupid ?
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Nice try once again cutting just 1 part of the whole sentence and the whole explanation behind it.
     
  12. MAD_PIGE0N

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    As stupid as yourself, yes.
     
  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    So, you are admitting that you are stupid? That's on you. I never use the term that you are stupid, it was generalised term. Good on you for admitting that. But don't try to put it on other people.
     
  14. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Cheap try...

    Admitting something about you, why skipping that part? Me being stupid doesn't mean you're smart, is it so amazing and complicated for you to realize?
     
  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Again i'm not claiming that your stupid. You make that statement by yourself.
    What is stupid though is arguing if a person is smart or not, based on your chat with him via boxing forum. :D