I have to admit that Wilder.....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jacques81, Oct 11, 2022.


  1. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not buying into the Helenius hype, sorry. He's nothing.
     
  2. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Yet, you "generalized" that many people are stupid. Another contradiction of yours.
     
  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Agree on that, with the exception of people turn blind eye on whyte and call it black. Yeah i can either call that people a blind or stupid person.
     
  4. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder-Helenius is an 85-15, Joshua-Arreola is a 95-5 and Fury-Chisora is a 98-2. So yeah, on paper Wilder is taking a much bigger risk.
     
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  5. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    Head to head wise Chisora was robbed against Helenius. A long time ago admittedly. If they fought today its a coin flip imo.

    But overall yeah Wilder/Helenius does feel less offensive than AJ/Arreola or Fury/Del Boy 3. I guess its because Wilder took such bad beatings in the Fury fights plus has been away a while.
     
  6. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Helenius is as crap as Chisora & maybe Arreola
     
  7. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chisora beat Helenius and was robbed absolutely blind when both where in their primes a decade ago.

    Kownacki is hardly a good win lol.
     
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  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    For people keep crying about Arreola.
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  9. Quickeyg

    Quickeyg Really really really don't care. Full Member

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    Hearns team putting out that disinfo and it won't surprise me if aj doesn't fight this year. The man is broken lol.
     
  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If AJ is broken, what we should say for Wilder then???
     
  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Helenius has sparred Wilder for dozens of rounds, he was his main sparring partner to prepare for Fury.

    He is a known quantity.

    NEXT
     
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  12. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Prime" doesn't really apply to Helenius, who has frequently been injured (Chisora) fat (Duhaupas) or short notice with zero ambition (Whyte). Helenius has been more consistent in the last 2.5 years than he has at any stretch in his career.

    Helenius has more power than Chisora and Chisora's chin (which he has always heavily depended on) has declined markedly due to all of the wars. Some are picking Helenius to beat Wilder (mainly due to the uncertainty of how much Wilder has left post-Fury) but no one is picking Chisora to beat Fury.
     
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  13. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly.

    We will find out just how short circuited Fury has made Wilder in this fight.

    I have a feeling Helenius can win this by KO unless he was hired to just lie down
     
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  14. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't believe that fights are routinely fixed; Scott took a dive but Scott is relatively cowardly and wanted to pad his best friend's 1st round KO stats. Sconiers, Molina and Ortiz clearly didn't get the memo: had Wilder been cursed with a David Price chin he'd have been sparked out many times by now.

    Helenius has got a chance if he can land a bomb on Wilder's increasingly suspect chin/ear/temple. His best chance is to draw Wilder into a shootout early, before he's found his feet.
     
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  15. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pulev got jobbed, as every foreigner does in the UK, USA, or France.
     
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