Is Sugar Ray Leonard divisive amongst boxing fans?

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  1. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah tough as teak.
     
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  2. Frankus

    Frankus Active Member Full Member

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    I don’t have him in my top 10 but wouldnt begrudge someone that does. He was a fantastic fighter.
     
  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What does this even mean? He "used his reach" and movement (meaning his skills) to beat someone and is discounted for it?

    That's like saying you discount Hearns' victories over Cuevas and Duran because he just used his power. C'mon, man.
     
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  4. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do not like SRL's boxing style, but since I'm a fan of pressure boxers and brawlers, that's normal.
    I feel he didn't deserve the nod vs Hagler, and I don't say this just as a Hagler fan, but I feel in order to take the belt from the champ, you need to beat the champ. Shoe shinning ain't gonna cut it.
    And yes, SRL had it easy and Hagler had it way harder.
     
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  5. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes you are
     
  6. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's always been that unwritten rule in boxing where a long established champion has to be battered from the title, such as Zivic taking Armstrong's, or Armstrong taking away Ross's crown.
    Leonard didn't batter Hagler, but he may have won.
    Hagler was the blue collar, king of the ring.
    Looking at the men he fought on his way up, then at the top, he deserves his legacy.
     
  7. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought I was the only one who thought that made no sense.
     
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  8. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler wasn't a brawler or pressure fighter the vast majority of hi
    Hagler wasn't a brawler or pressure fighter the vast majority of his career.
     
  9. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, it was a really strange post.
     
  10. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler fought the proper way, he wanted to do damage with his fists, not just to tap you.
     
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  11. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The first time I'd heard of Hagler was reading a ring magazine re the successor to Carlos Monzon.
    Hagler was described as being a short, southpaw version of Joe Frazier and only had an outside chance of winning the title.
    He was also described as a slugger.
    What a croc of crap.
     
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  12. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know what's your take on "proper way" is. But
    the majority of Leonard's wins were knockout's . Some were
    quite brutal and ruthless. (Dave Green, Andy Price, Kalule,
    Lalonde, Razany etc) If Leonard was just "tapping" those
    opponents, I'd hate to see what he would've done if he
    was committed to hurting them.
    I think you mistake Leonard not being able to hurt Hagler to him
    not trying to hurt him. Theirs plenty of times during that fight, he
    set his feet, and blasted Hagler. He just couldn't do what much
    harder punchers like Hearns, Briscoe, Sibson, Roldan, Lee
    Mugabi etc couldn't do, that's seriously Hurt Hagler.
    But unlike the above group of fighters, Leonard had the
    ability to use a different tactic , force Hagler to lead,
    counter him, move off that spot.
    It's exactly what Duran did, force the counter puncher
    to lead.
    Great fighters have the ability to change tactics in
    the heat of battle.... It's a shame you can't see that.
     
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  13. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was in Ring Magazine when I first picked up on Hagler too. I think it was a report on his bout with Bennie Briscoe a few years before he became world champion. When he came over to Britain for the title fight with Minter,a lot of my friends who were what you may describe as big time fight,casual boxing fans were asking me to give them the lowdown on "This bald bloke that Minter's fighting"
     
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  14. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How could the ring have got it so wrong about Hagler ?
    I got asked the same thing about Hagler vs Minter.
     
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  15. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah you don't expect The Ring to get things like that wrong.
     
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