Helenius going to KO Wilder

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Thecheckjab, Oct 12, 2022.


  1. Murderers' Row

    Murderers' Row Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,437
    6,341
    Apr 23, 2020
    Johnny Fisher?
     
  2. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,612
    3,076
    Aug 26, 2020
    Yeah that would be nice, except Zhang who would be pretty scary if he had developed the old way, in the ring fighting a lot. He interests me for some reason.

    As mentioned, Jared Anderson is worth keeping an eye out for.
     
    Murderers' Row likes this.
  3. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

    729
    445
    Aug 31, 2019
    helenius will go to bed early
     
  4. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,612
    3,076
    Aug 26, 2020
    It's much harder to predict winners nowadays because the top guys, especially at HW, are so damn OLD, they could slip up at any time.
     
  5. bigboxinghippo420

    bigboxinghippo420 Member Full Member

    119
    100
    Dec 23, 2021
    Vikings were 5'4 and covered in poop, so he is not a viking
     
  6. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,612
    3,076
    Aug 26, 2020
    Picking Wilder by KO, but who knows with these low-skill old men anymore.
     
  7. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    24,041
    17,526
    Apr 26, 2006
    I got round 6 as a prime target......maybe this won,t last as long
     
  8. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,957
    3,441
    Jul 25, 2021
    I did the opposite Kiwi.
     
  9. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,541
    2,363
    Apr 22, 2012
    Never going to happen. Anyone predicting this is going to look foolish.

    Helenius goes to sleep early. He has never dealt well with getting hit hard.
     
    Levook likes this.
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

    45,355
    3,763
    Feb 20, 2008
    There literally is zero reason for a 4th Fury fight. Wilder won only a handful of rounds total in 3 fights.
     
    northpaw likes this.
  11. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

    75,165
    39,588
    Jan 22, 2015
    Im just happy to see Wilder back in the ring, hes my favorite active HW right now and im anxious to see what hes got left.
     
    sasto likes this.
  12. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,534
    16,091
    Aug 5, 2020
    I feel like 25/1 is really good odds for that.

    Look at the back section of anyone's career. No fighter over age 35 is better than 20-1 to last 6 rounds, and he's coming off 2 KOs in a row?

    I think Wilder wins this but I would take the bet for the odds.
     
    drenlou likes this.
  13. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,682
    2,621
    Sep 30, 2005
    These guys are not that far apart in resumes. Wilder had the trilogy with Fury, who is the best fighter either guy has faced but he should be 0-3 against him. And Wilder got KO'd twice by Fury. And beyond Fury, his resume is pretty thin. Helenius fought Chisora, Whyte and Peter which is probably on par with Wilder's next three opponents (maybe even better) in Ortiz, Stiverne, and Arreola. If I'm wrong on the top three fights, let me know.

    Now I know people will bring up Washington, but Helenius knocked out Kownacki twice who stopped Washington quicker than Wilder did. It's why triangle theories don't work; styles make fights.

    Wilder is still the bad boxer with an A+ right hand he's always been. And Helenius is probably still lacking in the whiskers department, so if Wilder lands like he did on Breazeale, it'll be a short night. However, I think Helenius is still the better boxer between the two, meaning he has better fundamentals. And if Wilder doesn't knock him out, he could be in a world of trouble because Helenius can punch too.

    You put a gun to my head, I'd take Wilder by KO. But for anyone betting it, you should definitely take Helenius at +500 or better.
     
  14. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,813
    1,883
    Sep 30, 2019
    Helenius will be Wilder's best win.
     
    ursus maritimus likes this.
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    122,871
    34,859
    Jun 23, 2005
    Nah I think wilder has enough left to get by him.
     
    Joy_Rones likes this.