Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Robert Gabriel Helenius & Caleb Plant vs. Anthony Dirrell RBR.

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  1. uppakut

    uppakut Member Full Member

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    So what theory are you subscribing to? That it was a fix? Helenius is just a **** past his sell by date fighter that got caught by a guy with heavy hands. Simple as that
     
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  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Was that sound the punch? Geez.
     
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  3. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    His head snapped violently around when that shot landed, and it's not as if Helenius is the first guy to be knocked out from a square hit to the face (as opposed to the jaw). We know that Wilder doesn't have to make a perfect contact to KO a guy with considerably less than stellar resistance to punches.


    What, no Scuba Scott? (A much better candidate for dive accusations than this one, as it happens.)
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    That I don't think Helenius took this seriously and showed up for a payday. I wouldn't be surprised if team Wilder knew that either.
     
  5. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wilder had to move that way as he needed the range for that right hand. Great knockout.
     
  6. uppakut

    uppakut Member Full Member

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    You can't end you quote with "and you know it" to a poster like that. He knows nothing just look at how he scores fights lol
     
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  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    No. because that was literal dive(hence that term which I coined personally) :lol:
     
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  8. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a pretty good angle. It really didn't look that hard in real-time but Helenius looked out when he went down. I thought Helenius maybr just quit but you're right, he obviously has a glass chin.
     
  9. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder hits so hard, he doesn’t need much on it.
     
  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Still far better this.
     
  11. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was a crazy KO the way he completely froze Helenius, he couldn't close his eyes or move at all, scary.
     
  12. Banana-Rama

    Banana-Rama Active Member Full Member

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    Boxing isn't magic, a punch with little power on it isn't a knockout punch just because Wilder is throwing it.
     
  13. UFC2020

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    It's not just Wilders power which is real, the speed and range makes the punches all the more deadly and difficult to see coming along with the fact that Wilder can throw it from unpredictable angles and can even shorten the punch.
     
  14. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The weird thing is the Breazeale knockout was brutal but that was Wilder on his front-foot. He KO'd Helenius moving backwards, which is where I didn't think Wilder had any power. It's why Fury walked him down and KO'd him in the second fight.

    Helenius has no chin, he's like Ortiz at this point. He should hang them up because he's going to get KO'd by any hard shot he gets from here on out.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It's comical when The Dosser's fans try and trash the level of AJ's opposition

    Usyk, Wlad, Povetkin, J-Park, Fat Andy, Pulev, Takam, and even Whyte all have skills and with the exception of Takam all were either world champions ot top contenders and they know how to fight. Usyk, Wlad and Povetkin in particular are elite skilled HWs

    Fury and Ortiz are the only skilled champions or top contenders The Dosser has fought. Stiverne has lost to virtually every big man he's fought and his skill level is poor. His second best win is a way past it 40 y.o Ray Austin. The rest are D levels and their skill level is very poor and they get caught by shots competent amateurs would never get caught by. Scuba Scott has skills but he's D level too.

    AJ fought six world champions in almost half the fights The Dosser has had, The Dosser has fought three in 45 fights and one of them was shot beyond belief Liakhovich who was 2-4 in his last 6, 3 of those losses via KO or stoppage, the 2 wins against scrubs and The Dosser should be 0-3 against one of the other two in his backyard x 3.

    AJ has a far superior resume
     
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