Deontay Leshun Wilder vs. Robert Gabriel Helenius & Caleb Plant vs. Anthony Dirrell RBR.

Cope

 

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Second angle, head snaps around brutally, that rubbernecking is where the KO came from.

 

shoulder in near full external rotation, you cannot generate power like that. If was a very weak slapping punch.
this is a great angle just to see how rotated his shoulder was. thanks

 

Yes. It is depicted here:

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Yes, it was in external rotation before he threw the punch.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about. Knockouts are not only a function of power but also how the recipient takes the shot. Helenius was caught flush with a punch he didn't anticipate, and he was leaning into it.

 

I don't think many people here are giving Wilder much credit for beating a used-up Helenius.

And I don't think many people were critical of AJ's performance against Takam or Povetkin, either.

 

Many guys might not be able to generate power enough to knock out a chinny, shopworn Helenius with that shot, but Wilder evidently can, because a head doesn't jolt around like that unless it's been hit with sufficient force.

 

he threw the punch from a position of external rotation, that is the whole point. and the camera angle i just saw showed his shoulder was in near full external rotation.You cannot generate power punching from that position, it was a slap with poor technique.

 

his head moved the same way anyones head would when it is punched even with minimal force.
I have no problem with people believing this is real, but i dont based on the biomechanics.

 

There was always the chance that Wilder was going to be a shell of his former self. Absent that, Helneius wasn't in with a real chance here.

It was kind of funny how people were suggesting that Helenius was somehow, magically in his best career form heading into this fight - even better then he was circa 2011. Unless we're talking club level...they ain't made a boxer who's better at aged 38 than at aged 27.

Wilder hasn't changed his tune. He's still a one-note symphony, though, and a fresher, more skilled fighter can definitely still beat him or stop him.

 

If only i had a crystal ball near as good as yours.

 

I've been hit with more than minimal force (for guys my size) several times this week, and my head wasn't snapping around like that.

Aside from which, some brains will deal with being thrown around in the skull better than others will. Helenius' brain has been thrown around in his skull quite a lot in the last decade or so.

 

Ali and Holmes were packing serious glass then with all the small LHW's-decent sized cruisers who dropped or KO'd them, amateur and pro.

 

Yeah because it's not like we've seen Wilder being outboxed by fighters far inferior to Usyk multiple times before, oh wait. You don't need a crystal ball for this one.