Wilder-Helenius "Dive?"

Yes possibly. It definitely catches him awkwardly on the nose but it just looks like a stunning shot. Not a flat on your back unable to move type punch.

A bit like Joshua V Charles Martin in a way. That wasn't a dive as such but Martin was very keen for the fight to be waved off.

 

Why you are even writting this s**** ? Did you see anyone questioning Wilder power, or that Helenius is some iron chinned guy or great fighter?

Go watch my comments pre-fight i said Wilder will win inside 3. I also give him props in the RBR thread, but looking at the footage, there is no explanation to that punch, other than some next level glass china or a dive.

 

the blinking and his feet also turned inward (which is not a full unconcious prone position) are also suspect.
look and khan canelo, or hatton pacman. the feeth generally turn out in a face up knock out.

 

It was a punch Helenius didn't expect and those are the ones that can knock you out, but the way he acted after that is weird, I mean if this is legit it proves he's a sh*tbag, just as 90% of Wilder's opponents. So nothing spectacular in this fight, but just as crappy as most of Wilder's.

 

This, but there is zero sense in discussing anything with DinoVelvet, a well known troll on here. I even forget he existed, as i have ignored him for long, long time now.

And to be fair, it's not just the way he throws the punch, look how it connect, it looks like a f**** light punch.

And if Helenius chin is so bad, he would have like 10+ KO loses at least, no matter how protected he is. That punch land as light as it could be.

 

No power? Heard the sound of the blow in this video

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I also question this, why would Helenius actually took a dive for his buddy Wilder ? Yeah money, but he would have probably earned more with challenging for the title by beating Wilder. Unless he didn't believe in himself at all.

Let's not forget we already have an Wilder opponent who took a dive against him, and this was 100000000% proven.
This video explain it perfectly well and show a perfect angle.

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And another short one:

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This is 1000% a dive. Can anyone argue with that dive for god sake ?

 

Bro how canyou judge how much pounds of pressure Wilder hit Helenius with on that chin by simply looking at it in real time? Even looking at those videos on YouTube there's just no telling how hard the impact was. We heard the punch, it was right on the button and Helenius fell like a sack of bricks. Wilder is the biggest Puncher in the HW division and Helenius walked into the danger zone and got slept. There's nothing dodgy about that. I've seen people get slept by punches worse than that. I'm not convinced it was a dive.

 

Now explain me this buddy:
Is this a DIVE OR NOT ?

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I want an answer from you.
Sound familiar ?
Malik Scott - Wilder best friend, also a sparring partner. You know that Helenius is Wilder long term sparring partner and also good life friend as well.

Why would Malik Scott took a dive for Wilder, when he can get on high if he was to beat him ???? Explain this.

Simple they didn't fancy their chances and want the easy money. Wilder promoters have plenty in the back, and he was well protected through his whole career. Let's not forget how they erase the whole f***** Internet to delete the HAROLD SCONIERS footage.
That fight can't be found anyf****** where, which is a huge huge mystery to this date.

 

I swear this forum gets worse every day. If Helenius took a dive, he should win an Oscar. Jesus Christ.

 

AJ put his whole body to that counter punch, nothing in comparison.

 

I'm not saying it was definitely a dive but...

- Former sparring partner
- Wilder needs to rebuild his career and this is the best possible result even though its rare in boxing at that level
- Wilder has previously been accused of being in fixed fights
- People were calling the possibility of Helenius taking a dive before the fight happened

 

I'm fairly certain he's blinking "wave it off" at the ref in morse code.

 

if Wilder had not been involved in fights like this before, there may be a small percentage of me that could give him the benefit of the doubt vs Helenius. But given his history i cant

 

Egh conspiracy theories now aye.