Wilder-Helenius "Dive?"

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PBC's youtube channel never shows the knockouts because it is on the Youtube Kids program which doesn't allow too much violence.

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A punch you don't see truly ends a fight, but Helenius was like he swallowed his tongue. Going back to the knockout of Wilder against Scott, it's reasonable to have doubts. But ok, let say the punch was legit, so Wilder took another bum to knockout and Helenius is of a very bad chin. So "with that being said" - Buuuuummm squaaaad!

 

Wilder has incredible power
Helenius is an old man with weak chin

 

Yeah, sorry. Everything you see in boxing is 100% legit.

 

Wow someone on this forum who knows what he’s talking about.

Helenius reaction to the slap and the ref straight away calling off the fight adds to dodginess. Definitely a dive

 

Sort of, but what you think you see sometimes isn't what it seems.

 

lordjosh your posts are making me embarrased what are you blabbing on about you sound like you should be in a mental hospital yes the scott fight was dive agree but not this jesus christ you are of your head son

 

If he did then he sold it well. He looked like Paul Williams with his eyes open.
The other possibility is that Wilder has freak power that even an arm punch would shatter a china chin.

 

Is that your argument? Wow. How could this possibly mean he didn’t dive?

 

Blq, blq, blq, blq, insult on personal level, but not a single argument, why this ain't a dive or try to explain how exactly you can generate a power from that angle.

 

There was no doubt that Wilder is big puncher. How big is still yet to see, cause so far he never faced and Iron Chin guy in his prime or close to it.
The point is completely different. And if you had a Martial Arts background you should have understand it. Doesn't matter how big puncher you are, there is still physics behind it. And you cannot throw punches from any position and that punch to turn into a KO.
And yeah i acknowledge that Helenius was coming forward, which adds much to the punch, but that was still ***** arm punch, that no way should KO anyone unconscious, no matter how much of a big puncher you are.

And yeah there is people that KO people with jabs, but a timed jab, that you put your body on it, and your arm is in the right position before that.

Anyone can simulate the right hand punch, first throw it from your body, and second the way Wilder throw that punch his arm being away from it, and will straight away see, you just cannot generate power that way.

 

cos he got punched clean on the kisser by huge puncher what do yu think watch the video ffs

 

Its funny how the commentator compared it to Ali vs Liston 2.

 

Helenius got punched straight in the centre of the face with a right hand
& It rocked his head back visibly.

considering Wilder might be the hardest puncher in boxing
& Helenius is an old man with a weak chin

what exactly is to doubt?