RBR'ers.... who are the forums best scorers?

I do not agree.

 

You scored Shields vs Marshall incorrectly due to your bias in favour of Marshall but you were more spot on as regards Mayer vs Baumgardener. When you are not biased you can score fights properly.

 

Pimp C is an outstanding reader of fights and scores contests accurately just like me.

 

You are very good like Pimp C.

 

DKSAB when it comes to scoring. I don’t really believe you really thought Golovkin won the. 3rd fight with Canelo.

 

With the list or the rationale? Any more specifics there?

I'm not in every RBR by any stretch, but that's my perception - even if some of the folks on the list do not score the same as me - or as can often be the case - each other. But there is usuallly always good insight & rationale, even if it can sometimes be mixed in with some banter

 

Olu you just set yourself up man.

 

I have a lot of experience. When the Sky commentators were talking crap yesterday about Mayer controlling the fight I pointed out that was BS. The fight was close and Mayer was far from in control and that the mobility unorthodox movements of Baumgardener was causing problems for Mayer’s text book boxing.

 

I doubt 50% see where you're coming from scoring GGG Canelo 3 to GGG. Pretty much everybody saw that as a clear one-sided Canelo win. Scoring that for GGG is far more "out there" than me scoring the 1st fight for Canelo. And your 12-0 Bivol over Canelo shows a trend that you're looking to score rounds against Canelo. But I think what you have going for you is that you're a dedicated RBR scorer where I'm not. You pretty much score every fight that exists whereas I rarely provide scorecards, so that's a big difference. But when I do, I try and support my scores with reasoning to explain where I'm coming from, which is important as well. All I'm saying is, I'm not afraid to present an alternate take where it's warranted either and I back my scores with reasoning. Just to compare Canelo GGG 1 to Canelo GGG 3, the average scorecard had Canelo GGG 3 as a far more one-sided Canelo win than the 1st fight as a GGG win. So yes we're both in the minority there, but you know very well that the 1st fight was far closer and far more competitive on the RBR basis than the 3rd fight. So for you to say I'm in fantasy landing and making stuff up, that's not accurate in that case. I was very fair to GGG in the first fight explaining why I scored certain rounds the way I did, whereas you didn't provide that same reasoning for your scoring the 3rd fight for GGG. So if we're gonna talk about making stuff up, failing to support an alternate scorecard is more of an indication of that than anything. You can't deny that I go out of my way to explain my reasoning, and I do that mainly to avoid that kind of criticism.

 

I had it a draw. 95-95..

 

I think he does KSAB when it comes to scoring, it's just when it comes to fighters he likes / dislikes, he often goes out of his way to give close rounds to the fighters he likes. I don't think he really believes GGG won, but to each his own, if he can find 7 rounds to give to GGG, more power to him. But to then accuse me of being in fantasy land after a score like that, that's where I have to pump the brakes. I could easily say he's in fantasyland for that score, but I don't. Because I am one who respects people who see fights differently, and I recognize that it's all subjective. If you want to be respected for giving scores like that, at the least you should show that same respect to those that you disagree with. Because in the end, the same criticism can be made of you as well.

 

Quite a few can score fights well when unbiased. Certain fights (particularly Canelo GGG) brings the worst out as the scoring is so agenda driven and biased

 

Can I ask you straight up? In your opinion, is it more reasonable to score Canelo GGG 3 for GGG than it is to score the 1st fight for Canelo? Which fight was closer and more competitive on a RBR basis?

 

Regarding all that CST scoring discussion. His scoring has improved by A LOT. His scorecards today have nothing to do with those nonsense scorecards he posted some years ago. Nevertheless he's still too biased sometimes and cannot be trusted if you are not watching the fight, because you never know if he's scoring the fight or if it is his bias who is scoring the fight.

When I voted the best scorer, I voted for the scorer I trust when I'm not watching the fight. I mean, I just joined the RBR and I missed the first 6 rounds but I want to know how's the fight going, which scorecard do I check first (no matter if they are 8 rounders or megastar champions)? that's how I answered the poll.

imho in RBR it is more important to keep your bias under control than to master all the little nuances of scoring a fight. A small error scoring a fight because of some little detail is not very important (even if it can decide a fight) in the long term, but often not being able to keep your bias under control destroys all your scoring (biased and not biased), because you cant be trusted.

 

This is an excellent point.

If I join an rbr halfway through and someone has a totally different score to everyone else, I know it's utter whack.

I've never seen IB or Pinoy post an agenda driven card which is why they got my vote.