Plant Sending Dirrell Through A Wormhole Screams Ultra 12K OLED PEDs...

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  1. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    You should have gone down the esophagus or been embedded into the seats of the Chevy Cavalier you were conceived in.

    That's rich. You've disrespected and accused Pac of being PEDs for well over a decade while giving free passes to Marquez, Clenelo, and Fluid Jr.. Expecting any kind of consistency from a troll like you (aside from Pac hate) is an impossible ask.

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  2. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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    Looked like he was on the same thing Pacquaio was on
     
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  3. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    • While I didn't expect Plant to absolutely separate Dirrel from his senses, I've noted on the forum that the kid has more than adequate pop when he actually commits to his punches, particularly hooks in the trenches.
     
  4. Braindamage

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    I think you're mistaken. I'm pretty sure when I said that it was in the form of question. Example, if everybody is using is it really cheating?
     
  5. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    If everybody is cheating, everybody is cheating.
     
  6. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Not making accusations, just pointing out, that no other man in the entire history of boxing has done what Manny did. Amazing. Yet Plant's KO piques your suspicion but. Manny doesn't?
     
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  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think that KO does bring up a lot of questions, someone who really can't hit smashing someone who (albeit old and on his way out) has over their career shown a great chin and toughness. That was very weird to see. I think you gotta go back years and years to something like this, like Michael Nunn vs. Kalambay, and honestly Nunn was a decent puncher. Plant cannot punch, he's like Cory Spinks lack of power. I'm not gonna scream PED though, I'll simply say that this shows it's time for "the Dog" to get the ole Yeller treatment.
     
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  8. JOKER

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    We've been over this a thousand times...

    Pac has ALWAYS been a massive puncher. And as he ascended the weight classes, the KOs dropped, which apparently and ironically signaled to everyone that Pac was using versus if the KOs had continued, it would have exonerated him from such accusations.

    :roflmao:

    And as I've said repeatedly, Pac is the only guy to sue to clear his name — Marquez threatened to sue Freddie, but didn't. Clenelo threatened to sue Golovkin, but didn't. He's the only guy who wasn't afraid to cast a light on himself to prove he was clean. Pac also never did short fight announcements and has never dodged VADA testing (like Marquez and Floyd). Pac could have been using, but in my personal opinion, I don't see it.

    You are predisposed to hating on/accusing Pac of PED use. Like this thread — made after a guy known for being featherfisted authoring a one hitter quitter that left his opponent immobilized for minutes on the canvas, yet you brought up Pac and no one else. I mean it's cool. You're entitled to believe that Pac used. Just don't pretend that you're some balanced poster.
     
  9. alpo1

    alpo1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who's his nutritionist, dr shaw hi?
     
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  10. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does seem out of the ordinary for him. It's just one fight for now. So let's see.
    If he starts becoming a KO artist, then he definitely goes on the suspect list.

    It's funny how people still deny that remarkable changes in performance or power are often due to PEDs.
    This literally JUST HAPPENED with Conor Benn. He suddenly became a KO artist taking out seasoned robust guys and in the end it turned out to be what it looked like, PED help.

    It's not just a change in performance that signals this kind of thing. Fighters can be enhanced from very early times too. But when you see the change happen before your eyes, it's okay to be suspicious.

    This is actually one thing that works in Fury's favour. Now let's say he did roid for the Wilder rematches, for instance, as some claimed because he got KOs. His power didn't look much different despite 'sitting down' on his punches. It should have been a huge difference considering his style too. Yet he didn't stop Wilder early with some bombs. He still needed a lot of rounds to batter Wilder into a stoppage. These were still attrition stoppages.
     
  11. Braindamage

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    I brought up Pac because he's your guy. You love Pac. You have made that clear. You're quick to point out how odd it is for Plant to KO Dirrel and that you suspect him of using PED's, but Pac doesn't raise any suspicious in your mind at all? Pac has accomplished the impossible in his career and many fans have expressed their suspicion about whether he was clean. Not you, why? Plant never has been under suspicion, never failed a drug test. The same arguments you use to support Manny, I can use for Plant.

    As far as me being pre disposed on hating Pac and accusing him of using. It only seems that way to you because you are probably the biggest Manny fan on ESB. so when you make a thread accusing other fighters of cheating, you may get questions about Manny. I never outright said Manny cheated, ever. Like I stated earlier, I hope he accomplished everything clean. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if he did cheat.
     
  12. lepinthehood

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    Anthony will need a head doctor like his brother.
     
  13. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    ONCE AGAIN...

    Pac has ALWAYS been a massive puncher. And as he ascended the weight classes, the KOs dropped, which apparently and ironically signaled to everyone that Pac was using versus if the KOs had continued, it would have exonerated him from such accusations.

    And as I've said repeatedly, Pac is the only guy to sue to clear his name — Marquez threatened to sue Freddie, but didn't. Clenelo threatened to sue Golovkin, but didn't. He's the only guy who wasn't afraid to cast a light on himself to prove he was clean. Pac also never did short fight announcements and has never dodged VADA testing (like Marquez and Floyd). Pac could have been using, but in my personal opinion, I don't see it.

    Pac had a less than 10% KO rate at 147 spanning over a decade.

    Please read all the above again.

    Plant has always been known as feather-fisted. That's his reputation. To one hit quit someone and leave them motionless for minutes is highly suspicious.

    And quit your trolling. PLENTY OF PEOPLE (mostly Clenelo or Fluid Jr. fans) ACCUSE PAC OF PED USAGE and you have NEVER taken exception to their comments. EVER. Like I said, you have a right to think Pac was on PEDs, but don't pretend you're a balanced poster.
     
  14. Flo_Raiden

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    Nobody seemed to have any suspicion when Sergio Martinez put Paul Williams to sleep, who is normally an iron chinned guy while Martinez had a pretty low KO% prior. Just because a fighter doesn't consistently KO fighters in emphatic fashion doesn't mean they're on anything, it's all just perfect timing, set up, technique, and the other fighter not seeing it coming, happens all the time. Plant most likely worked on that perfecting that punch set up while training for this fight.
     
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  15. Braindamage

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    I don't take exception to their comments because I see how they can believe Manny cheated. In fact you're doing the same thing they do. Look at how quickly you accuse Plant of cheating because he gets a knockout in a division he's been campaigning in for years. Yet you find it unreasonable for people to accuse Manny? Featherfisted guys getting knockouts is more common than a guy starting his career at 108, getting belts in 8 divisions, fighting guys almost 50 pounds more than where he started, beating a top welterweight at 40 years old. And that's why I asked why Plant's KO piques you suspicion but not Manny. You have made it more than clear why you believe Manny was clean. I want to know why are you so quick to accuse Plant. There has to be more to it than this knockout?