Who is the man at heavy...Usyk or Fury?

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Usyk or Fury

  1. Usyk

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  2. Fury

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  1. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Be fair: P4P is incomparable. Comparing at one category is very different.

    How many taller than Fury people are in the division? So is it his choice really? Now, how many shorter Usyk fought at cruiser - good amount.
     
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    Thus spake the @tinman, a fellow who chose a pedo to lead his country. :stick:


    Fury defies handicaps typically imposed by his dimensions.
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Agreed, Usyk is indeed incomparable

    Weight not height
     
  4. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Yeah, the shortest way to the heavyweight title: one bum, one aged mid-level and one top. Now going back to cruiser and Canelo for more greatness.
     
  5. Heavy_Hitter

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    Helenius, if not for his dives he would be numberc1.
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The WBO's own rule

    Usyk waited for 2 years for his shot and had 2 fights at the weight

    Terry Crawford waltzed straight into a title fight x 2 at 2 different weights, had zero fights at the new weight in both instances, and only had to wait 5 and 10 months respectively

    Last minute replacement when his opponent popped dirty

    Chisora is one Fury's best wins. Hell, he thinks so highly of him he's fighting him next for a third time because he feels a tune up is essential for him to be able to bridge the gap to step back up to CW Level and Usyk Level

    No, Usyk is coming for Fury's WBC strap
     
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  7. MAD_PIGE0N

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    A lot of explanations, but the fact is Chazz, Chisora and AJ. Impressive legacy indeed, no wonder he aims at Canelo.
     
  8. FastLeft

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    yes it is all opinion . I agree.

    except for the results

    a decision win against Chisora & 2 against AJ simply doesn't cut it.

    Fury decisioned Chisora over a decade ago. & brutally outclassed him to a stoppage years ago. made Chisora look done & made him quit.
    & just battered Wilder twice. brutally beat him. destruction, heavyweight style.

    I know you love Usyk. but he merely outpointed AJ. couldn't knock him down in 24 rounds. merely frustrated him. the same AJ who was forced to quit and down 4 times against a fat guy with stubs for arms.
    this is quite factual.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He 2 better wins in just 4 fights in the division than Fury's second best win does in 45 lol

    And Chisora would be at worst The Dosser's second best win

    Currently it's Stiverne whose best win is Arreola, second best a 40 y/o way past it Ray Austin

    Chisora was robbed against J-Park, White and a prime Helenius and he has official wins over Pulev, Takam, Johnson, Spzilka, Scott etc. and some of those are considered very good wins for The Dosser.

    I think Chisora would probably spark The Dosser's best win Ortiz too because that fellow's chin has always been suspect

    No, again, he's aiming for the WBC King Fury for all the marbles. It would've already happened had Fury not walked away from the fight at the negotiating table
     
  10. Serge

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    Fury was juiced to the gills and needed two attempts to stop Chisora and he fought the flabby version who only trained on public holidays, not the man strength in shape juiced to the gills KO punching one Usyk fought

    The Dosser is a manufactured can crushing hype job who has been spoon fed trash his entire career and the moment he was fed someone above C level he got euthanized x 3 by them

    AJ is at worst the second best HW of his generation and his resume poops all over The Dosser's and it's better than Fury's too

    Usyk took him to slick school x 2 on his own soil and in Saudi

    Usyk weighs 220lbs, Fat Andy 270lbs :facepalm:

    The Dosser has more power than Fury but that doesn't make him better than him. Three baptisms will attest to that

    Usyk is a slickster, Fury abandoned his slickness
     
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    You failed to answer why Fury, who is supposed to be this amazing champion, is actively refusing to fight anyone inside the top 10 by giving unrealistic deadlines and demands. Instead he called out Char, then Chisora. Chisora. Who he already beat twice, and who you've just disparaged Usyk for fighting.

    If AJ was so easy to beat, why hasn't Fury tried fighting him? It's easily the biggest fight in the UK to make. But no, 24 hour deadlines for AJ but Fury will give Chisora all the time in the world. Usyk in the meantime will fight anyone, anywhere, despite his country being in war. That's a fighting man. That's the top dog of the division.
     
  12. Kiwi Casual

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    Yeah that's true, Fury wouldn't fight Usyk. He retired instead, and came back to fight Char, an MMA fighter, a strongman, and finally settled on an opponent he beat twice already and actually retired.

    Meanwhile Usyk is out to unify.
     
  13. Kiwi Casual

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    There's a difference between being gun shy and unable to land on a highly skilled opponent. You want gun shy just watch Fury V Wlad or Fury V Wilder 1.
     
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  15. MAD_PIGE0N

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    @Serge it isn't Fury that walked away from whatever. Nor it was ever proven he was juiced - not only he never lookd so, but it was proven he wasn't.

    AJ is nowhere near to be the second heavyweight, sorry. Might be for you, I won't argue on that.


    @Kiwi Casual I didn't fail anything, I don't even kno what you're talking about, nor I am supposed to answer every blinded fan. I see you repeat like Fury didn't want AJ's fight, but we all saw what happened when it was supposed to happen. Not to mention how AJ lost three times.

    As for Fury vs. Usyk - we'll see how it'll go. Blaming one, but not the other for something that was never agreed and both camps don't discuss shows the bias where one can conclude how valid overview of the fighters a person has.