What would be done about the end of the Buchanan vs Duran bout if they fought today?

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  1. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Buchanan certainly got a raw deal in this fight but I also think he has exaggerated the injury - claiming that he burst a testicle.

    He was back in the ring less than 3 months later and there's no way he would have been able to do that after sustaining such a serious injury.

    The NYSAC doctor said: "He has a swelling of the right testicle. He’s in extreme pain."

    That seems far more plausible.

    Buchanan's recollections of that fight have probably been shaped by how much he has brooded over it ever since e.g. claiming that Duran couldn't land a punch on him and that his face was completely unmarked at the end of the fight.
     
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  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right, Buchanan landed after the bell first, so it appeared to me that Duran retaliated. If the fight had continued after Ken had been given time to recover I think he'd have been stopped in the next 2 rounds. Roberto was overwhelming him at the time
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ken was offered a rematch in Panama City at $25K. He turned it down. He reckoned it should have been in MSG and he was quoted in a UK newspaper saying he wouldn’t take it for less than $50K.

    And he did get another shot at a lightweight title a couple years later and came up short.
     
  4. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It wouldn't have changed much. Duran beat the **** out him.
     
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  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Referee Johnny Lo Bianco needed a pair of glasses.
     
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  6. Richard M Murrieta

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    Ken Buchanan was defeated by WBC Lightweight Champion Guts Ishimatsu, the same Guts who Robert Duran kayoed in round 10 of a title defense on Sept 8 1973.
     
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  7. Richard M Murrieta

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    Roberto Duran even decked Ken Buchanan in round 1 of their scheduled 15 round bout in Madison Square Garden on June 26 1972, Duran stopped Buchanan in round 13.
     
  8. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duran went in to finish off the Scot, but Buchanan countered with a left hook which made Duran think it wouldn't quite be so easy after all.
    There's no way, as tough as Duran was, he'd have finished Buchanan inside the distance legitimately
     
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  9. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roger Hunt wheeled away when the ball went over the line.
    He knew it had gone over
     
  10. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who cares, Kenny was getting beat convincingly, so Duran might be DQ'd, but a rematch would surely follow. Duran probably takes it again.

    I've never understood all the questions here, same with Turpin vs Robinson - the announcer even comments as to Randolph needing a KO or something to that effect, a round or two before the stoppage.

    they were both visable beaten, the only question has always been British/English grumbling, irrespective of whats clear in front of us, sadly it's what we do best!
     
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  11. Richard M Murrieta

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    I can appreciate that you are a true fan of Ken Buchanan. But when a rematch was offered Buchanan did not want to take the rematch in Panama. But staying with tradition, the champion has the privilege to pick his venue, not like today when these thieving promoters do not want to showcase champions to the rest of the world, anyway Buchanan fought Guts Ishimatsu on Feb 27 1975 for his WBC Lightweight Title, Ken was defeated by unanimous 15 round decision. Duran kayoed Guts Ishimatsu in 10 rounds on Sept 8 1973 in a title defense of his WBA title that he won from Buchanan.
     
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  12. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hunt knew the ball hadn't gone over the line and was hoping that a strong appeal would convince the officials that it was a goal.

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  13. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So by round 8 or 9 of the rematch, Turpin already needed a knockout to win...?
    That would mean that Robinson would have won every round by that stage.

    But going into the 10th round, the referee had it even, one judge had Robinson one round ahead and the other judge had him two rounds ahead.

    Who was the announcer? Ray Charles?
     
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  14. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've no doubt that Buchanan would have lost the rematch but it would certainly have been better to see them fight again but without a controversial outcome.

    It probably would have been better for Buchanan as well.
    He would have had the peace of mind of not living with the nagging thought that he had been cheated or, at the very least, treated unfairly.
     
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  15. Saintpat

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    It would have needed to be X-ray glasses to see clear through Duran as he was behind him. This was two guys going at it after the bell, with Ken throwing the first post-bell punch.

    Honestly I think it’s possible the punch strayed low because Lo Bianca was hugging Duran to pull him back and restrained his arms. Could be that the trajectory of that punch was more upward and the ref restraining Duran just above the elbows changed it so it landed low. No way to tell, really, but the ref couldn’t have seen the punch without seeing clear through Duran.
     
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