Gennady Golovkin vs Esquiva Falcao ordered by Wba and Ibf

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  1. box33

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    I understand that Canelo's long standing dislike over here never fails to dissipate but at the same time Golovkin gets a bigger pass with his actions especially after his pre fight promising words only to then follow up with that kind of performance, yet again it's Canelo who was the more disappointing fighter?

    It's very odd that throughout the years there has been far more Deck stacking, malicious ducking, cheating, unlikeable attitude having Boxer's who got far less constant heat thrown at them or criticized to this very day, even today they at least acknowledged that the fighter they are criticizing is considered to be very skilled, but when it's regarding Canelo it's just completely ignored.
     
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  2. m.s.

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    If he loses to average contenders then he needs to get out. To be honest, i think he fought a safty first fight. He's getting ready to retire and chose not to take unnecessary damage. If he could win the fight like that, then he would take it, if not, he would lose on points at the age of 40 to a younger superstar .He and his family get the money and he doesn't take much damage. If GGG comes back terrorising apponents in fights like the Murata fight and taking contenders out, then this one off performance will be forgiven. For Canelo fans its better yet, the better GGG looks, the better Canelo looks.
     
  3. m.s.

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    Canelo is very talented, talented enough to go the distance with GGG in the first fight that was very competitive, talented enough to lose a close decision in the 2nd fight, talented enough to defeat Jacobs, Kovalev, and unify the 168lbs division. More recently he was talented enough to actually defeat a 40 year old, seemingly un inspired GGG in a close decision. Lets be real, Canelo was behind in the series coming in.
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo failed to knock out GGG, but he wasn't playing patty cakes in there. He came to fight, unlike GGG. He applied pressure, landed big eye catching shots that marked GGG's face up early in the fight. Canelo did his job, GGG didn't. After it was clear that GGG was in survival mode, Canelo was content to easily outbox him and win a decision. If Canelo's desire to knock him out caused GGG to fight so cautiously, then GGG lost the psychological warfare. GGG was obviously worried abut being stopped, and fought super cautiously. In the post fight GGG even said he made an error in strategy fighting how he did. Canelo's threats to KO GGG didn't pan out, but it apparently had a major effect on GGG, turning into a scared little kitty cat allowing Canelo to win a clear decision. Had Canelo not stated his intentions to KO GGG, maybe GGG fights with more balls and ends up being more competitive. You can't argue with the results. A Clear UD over GGG, if Canelo threatening to KO GGG played a role in that, then it was a successful use of psychological warfare.
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lets be real, Canelo is undefeated vs GGG.
     
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  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Ive got to admit I have never heard of Falcao so I cannot comment on that. But the Alpha's want there $$$$$$$ every time their titles are defended
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Id just like to amend one of your jibes was supposed to have made about insulting Canelo ?? Could you please explain which ones were insulting??? Every point he made was the truth. About the Ped's ?? Which even the NSAC "punished" him for. The ludicrous judges scorecards in favor of Canelo , some of which were ludicrous even laughable. The way Canelo ducked GGG for years The cowardly way he handed back the WBC title claiming he wasn't really a middleweight !!! Every one is 100 % true
     
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  8. BeantownAll

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    Fighters with really good mobility and could box on the move would be the only fighters to give GGG problems during his prime (long over). I think that's the reason a fight with GGG and BJS was never made.

    Lara is "officially" nearing 40, though, and being Cuban - heavens only knows what his real age might be. Those legs of his are...on their last legs.

    I would think that GGG would try to blast Lara's body to slow him up. Remarkably, GGG wasn't really targeting Canelo's body at all. Lara throws some sharp counters to start with and he's got a significantly longer reach than Canelo did. So faded though Lara might be getting, himself - he might still have a game that troubles GGG at 160.
     
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  9. BeantownAll

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    I do think Canelo won that 3rd fight. But to be outworked as badly as he was during the final 1/3rd of the fight by a 40 year-old opponent is just really embarrassing.

    This fight was dreadful. I expected a stoppage win one way or another. Instead we got a fading Canelo riding a strong first half to a clear-but-certainly-not-dominant points win. What crap.
     
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  10. BeantownAll

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    GGG is shot. His prime was ending right around the time of the first Canelo fight.

    Whether Canelo is shot, himself or simply losing his motivation is the real question. Probably a bit of both, but I never reckoned him to be an ATG.
     
  11. shadow111

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    FOH, outworked by a 40 year old? GGG finally started fighting in the last 4 rounds and you call that outworking Canelo? He went from being shutout for 8 rounds to fighting competitively for 4 rounds. Stop exaggerating and grading GGG on a curve. he got completely dominated and exposed. Your 40-something excuses don't wash when we had 39 year old Marquez KO "prime" Pac, 40 something Pac decision "Prime" Thurman. If 40 year olds / near 40 years can do that to prime fighters, GGG who was far more well preserved should be able to do that too, or at least come to fight and be competitive. You need to stop making excuses for GGG. He got dominated, and that's extremely hard to do. It was a ATG performance by Canelo and history will reflect it as such. No one has ever come close to dominating GGG like that. GGG might be 40, but he doesn't look close to done at all. He intends to continue fighting and he'll probably get some big wins in his 40s then what'll you say? Canelo is a ATG, stop trying to discredit what he just did to GGG. He turned GGG into a scared little kitty cat. Canelo is undefeated vs GGG in 3 fights which however you spin it is legendary. No one ever in their wildest dreams expected that to happen. People thought GGG would destroy Canelo. It never happened. GGG couldn't beat even once Canelo 3 attempts, and just got dominated. Canelo >>> GGG.
     
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  12. shadow111

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    No one's shot Mr. Drama Queen. GGG gonna go back down to MW and defend his Unified Titles. Then you'll have to explain how he isn't shot all of a sudden. Canelo still has many years at the top left me thinks, but we'll see. Regardless, Canelo could retire tomorrow and he's a ATG based on the GGG trilogy alone.
     
  13. BeantownAll

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    Be serious. There's never been an elite MW fighter who wasn't shot at aged 40. The only thing in GGG's favor right now - and it's no small thing - is that the MW division is as depleted as I've seen it in a long, long time.

    Canelo lost the first two fights against GGG in the eyes of most fans. How tf does that make him an ATG?
     
  14. BCS8

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    A prime fighter failed to do anything against a fighter that is so old he should have retired already despite saying he would devastate him. That's what happened. A 40 year old has a better gas tank than Saul 'hamster lungs' Alzarez :lol:
     
  15. BeantownAll

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    "It was a ATG performance by Canelo" - you say? Nope.

    As for "Prime" Thurman facing Pac...Thurman's prime was over when the surgeons opened up his elbow after the Garcia fight. "Scared little kitty cat" describes how Thurman fought Josesito.

    Full credit to Marquez for stopping Pac, though. Despite being past his prime, of course. Marquez was a real warrior.