Is Deontay the hardest P4P heavyweight puncher ever ?

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    To be fair it's P4P and Rocky is 25-35 pounds lighter so he's not actually stating Rocky hits harder per se.

    Of course Rocky wasn't one punch sparking guys like Widler either, even the cans.
     
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  3. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    Dempsey is about the same size and hits harder than Rocky. Way more 1st round KOs and blazingly fast 1 punch KOs. Rocky was more of a grinder who wore guys down.
     
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  4. tommytheduke

    tommytheduke Active Member Full Member

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    He was a grinder with KO power. The fights with Walcott and Moore were turned around with one shot.
     
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  5. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic For the honorable cross and the golden freedom Full Member

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    IMO this is propaganda and I think the HARDEST puncher has to come from boxing not MMA.
    So, before Francis Ngannou, the record was held by Tyrone Spong (boxer), and I don't know if Deontay Wilder measured the power of a punch on such a machine.
    So the question is:
    So ONLY impact power without:
    title, legacy, charisma, personality, names, belts, decade to which it belongs, score, resume, precision, technique, tactics, opponent's chin, fans, emotions, (is it classic, "classical" or modern boxing) ... ........is Deontay Wilder.
    Of course it is IMHO.
    P.S. amateur boxers and boxers like Eric Esch come into consideration.
     
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  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excellent analysis. It matches what Leroy Caldwell said, Foremans punches were thudding, like a railroad tie being swung on a rope. He said Shavers was like a bomb exploding. Wilder's opponents do react like they've been hit by a high powered rifle.
     
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  7. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fitzsimmons is overrated as ****. No proof of his power whatsoever outside of exaggerated stories and myth.
    Anyone with an ounce of brain can see he's not a huge puncher just by looking at his build.
     
  8. Pat M

    Pat M Active Member Full Member

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    "Preacher/Memphis" Al Jones was apparently a big puncher but he didn't land on a lot of people. He did floor Jerry Quarry twice, and knocked out undefeated Joey Orbillo, and knocked out Boone Kirkman, but mostly he traveled and lost to hometown fighters. I've never seen him fight on video so I have no idea if he was just a wild swinging guy who got lucky sometimes or whatever? Jeff Sims and Jeff Merritt were supposed to be big punchers too, but Wilder is unique, he has managed to land on and hurt everybody who has been in the ring with him. He's long, quick, seems to be physically strong, and he carries his power the length of the fight. In addition he does not fight a conventional fight, he has the confidence in his power to seemingly give up rounds while he waits to land his big punch. I'm not sure that Wilder would be bothered by a guy with a good jab (other than a guy with freakish size and ability like Fury), I suspect that he would just take himself out of range of the jab where he wouldn't get hit and wait for the guy to leave an opening for his right hand. If the opening didn't come, Wilder might lose the decision if it did he might get a knockout?

    As far as the punch measuring machines, Wilder might not score as high on those as some heavier people. The tall guy who fought Eddie Hall might out score Wilder on one of those machines, but he probably wouldn't be able to land his punch on a trained, conditioned opponent. Wilder can land his, at any time, and from about any place in the ring. I have no idea if Wilder is absolutely the hardest puncher ever, but he is probably the only guy I've seen who can punch like that and is quick enough and has enough stamina and confidence to land it anytime in a fight and from any place in a ring.
     
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  9. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So do you think his record is a myth?

    Judging punching power by photos might be the worst take I have ever seen here...
     
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  10. Barrf

    Barrf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Height came into P4P rankings, Hearns would have to be ranked even higher at 147 no?
     
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  11. Glass City Cobra

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    But they had lots of built up damage before those KO punches landed. He grinded Walcott for 12 rounds, and he dropped Moore twice before finishing him.
     
  12. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Funny that Wilder against Helenius actually was around Terrel's size when he faced Ali. Quite a difference in power though.
     
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  13. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His record is obtained against the weak bums from his era, some of whom fought for a living. I wouldn't be surprised if many of them were malnourished.
     
  14. Barrf

    Barrf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I feel a bit bad for Caldwell. Literally all he's known for is the guy who got KO'd by both Foreman and Shavers.
     
  15. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This sums up perfectly every single boxer in every single era. Thanks for proving my point.