Wilder and Joshua Fighting it out in Nigeria

Take your pills grandpa.

 

Why not in Zaire ?

 

I was joking about the Dempsey part, but skills have devolved so much in boxing that I might not be surprised.

And go take your opiates you poor thing.

 

That is a good fight. Might be some good back and forth action. Definitely ends in a good KO.

 

Great idea and good to see

the winner puts themselves back to the top of the queue for a shot at a belt

much rather see this than them fighting people they’ve fought before or fighters that have no chance of ever winning a belt

 

Ah, how noble!

So they don't want to actually live there with their people but they want to fight there to pretend they want to live with their people.
Then they come back to live as 'oppressed minorities' and support political agitation against the hosts.
Typical laughable hypocrites.

Imagine Frampton living in Japan and complaining about the Japanese the whole time, supporting riots against them, then wanting to fight in Ireland for his people and heritage but not wanting to actually live with them.

Why can't AJ and Wilder move to Nigeria and help 'develop' the place and inspire their peoples? Seriously? Why not? There is no discrimination there, right? Okay, so the UN modern slavery index has Nigeria listed pretty high, but it's probably just some Englishmen who snuck up from South Africa, I'm sure.

 

This poster has a very good batting average.

 

They really haven't though. I think you're just experiencing confirmation bias because the lesser skilled fighters from today are fresh in your mind while you've completely forgotten about all the poor-quality fights you watched in the past.

 

Where this fight will take place is a mystery, one had bad experience in USA , the other doesn't travel far from the Barclay center .

 

it is the truth.
the heavyweight division is crowded with old men.
Fury wasted his prime years & then peaked again in second Wilder fight & is downhill from there. that was almost 3 years ago now.
his biggest threats are Usyk & Joyce who are maybe fresher than him but even older!
Wilder is 37 but only ever had power so he is still dangerous.
we have guys like Zhang being rated now . a guy who peaked in amateur 2008 Beijing Olympics. he is about 40 now.
it's a joke.

where are the young heavyweight up and coming? I think Daniel Dubois is the only one & he's not someone I would rate.

 

There are plenty of excellent fights from the 50s & 60's on youtube for free - check them out sometime.

Yep, and I'll bet there are fight 'fans' that would say Zhang beats someone that could actually fight, like Joe Louis LOL

 

There are plenty of fights but you're completely missing the point. There are a lot of awful fights from the 50's too that you don't think about because you have forgotten or not watched them. You take the bad fights from today and compare them to the good fights from yesteryear and say the old times were better. That's heavily biased. And then you want reinforce your mindset by saying somebody in the world probably thinks a guy ranked in the 20s could beat Joe Louis? That says a lot about the 40's that you have to pick a low ranked fighter to compete with their #1 man. How about Tyson Fury beats Louis? Because he does.

 

I suspect there are people here that think Zhang can beat Joe Louis.

My experience is that not only were the fights & fighters generally better back then, but that the fights themselves were fought at a higher pace or 'tempo'. I am not talking about punch output, but the rhythm of the fights.

Joe Louis forgot more about fighting than Fury will ever learn. And he's dead.

 

Fury is a student of the game and has lived boxing since a child. On top of that a privilege of living in the current era there is a lot more to learn as technique and strategy has evolved than there was in Louis time. This nonsense about lost arts that coaches don't know about is nonsense. There are coaches in the Cuban and Soviet programs with knowledge that would make Louis blush.

 

I think Fury is the best HW since Wlad.

I don't know anything about all that lost art stuff. I am talking better fighters, not better trainers.

It's not like there aren't any great fighters today, because their sure are, and it is extremely frustrating because they could be so much better if they fought more & better competition. I come across as grumpy sometimes, but that's because I've seen the sport I love, the sport my country once loved, turn into a mere shadow of what it once was. It particularly bothers me because I became a fan in the 70s, a time when the HWs were incredible, and now we have Fury-Chisora 3 to look forward to.