Boxrec ranks Joe Calzaghe...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jacques81, Oct 23, 2022.

  1. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2016
    Messages:
    3,731
    Likes Received:
    4,158
    #24 P4P Greatest Fighter all time..

    Do you agree????

    Do you have him in you top 100 All-time??

    Where then?
     
  2. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2020
    Messages:
    2,020
    Likes Received:
    2,969
    boxrec's rating system is drunk
     
  3. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2016
    Messages:
    3,731
    Likes Received:
    4,158
    Where then?

    #533? JC
     
  4. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2015
    Messages:
    75,264
    Likes Received:
    39,680
    Number 24. Hmmmmm.. id say hell noo.
     
    Dangerwood84 and Jacques81 like this.
  5. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2015
    Messages:
    11,844
    Likes Received:
    15,621
    Boxrec uses a computer algorithm for all their rankings. In seeking objectivity, inevitably, there will be anomalies. This being one of them, clearly...
     
  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2009
    Messages:
    11,655
    Likes Received:
    4,380
    he does not make the TOP 100 ATG in my opinion. he is a sure HOF though
     
  7. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    60,195
    Likes Received:
    80,271
    Never done a top 100. He is the greatest SMW though.
     
    velagod, don owens, CST80 and 4 others like this.
  8. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2018
    Messages:
    1,771
    Likes Received:
    2,634
    Calzaghe was a special fighter, there's really no such thing as pound for pound tho so why get wrapped up in stupid BoxRec lists we all know BoxRec is crap
     
    oldcanvasback likes this.
  9. Lil Niall

    Lil Niall Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2011
    Messages:
    709
    Likes Received:
    156
    Dunno about 25 of all time but I would rank him above Andre Ward & Bernard Hopkins (which he isnt per Boxrec) but behind Roy Jones (again he isnt).
     
  10. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Messages:
    60,195
    Likes Received:
    80,271
    So I think he's ranked so high because he beat some great fighters and never lost to anybody. I suspect that the Boxrec gizmo doesn't take into account what stage of the career the other fighter was when he lost to him. So over the hill RJJ = prime RJJ so far as the AI is concerned. etc ...
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    40,832
    Likes Received:
    10,205
    The last time I looked, they had Hopkins in the top 10 along with De La Hoya.

    As someone else has already pointed out, they use their own algorithm.

    Every knowledgeable fan knows that they’re a complete joke.

    The sad thing is, you get the casual element that lap it all up, especially on social media.

    It’s really annoying to me, because some of my favourite fighters, guys like Mike McCallum, don’t even get listed anywhere near the top 50-100 on most lists. So something like this is just an insult to a fighter like that.

    It’s now becoming rarer to see guys like Robinson, Greb and Langford in the top 5-10.

    Although these lists are all highly subjective, there’s got to be a certain criteria to follow.
     
    Smokin Bert likes this.
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    79,602
    Likes Received:
    130,071
    He's actually way too low when you factor in he was trained in rickety old dilapidated large shed which didn't even have a proper ring and was a health hazard to even be around by a musician father who'd never boxed before and he's hands were a mess long before he even turned pro, like almost a decade before he did so, and he was a clean natural fighter not a walking PED factory like many of his peers and fellow greats who literally jumped in a car at the start of the race and drove to the finish line as opposed to running it on foot the good old-fashioned honest way like Joe did.
     
  13. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2009
    Messages:
    11,655
    Likes Received:
    4,380
    Head to head I think Joe loses against prime Roy and Toney
     
  14. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2014
    Messages:
    4,382
    Likes Received:
    1,045
    After RJJ he is.
     
  15. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2014
    Messages:
    4,382
    Likes Received:
    1,045
    And Ward.