Larry Holmes vs Deontay Wilder

How have you got the audacity to say that Mercer was overhyped, after the absolute nonsense that you’ve posted over the last few days?

If Wilder had beaten Mercer, it’d have been his best win.

If Mercer had beaten a guy like Ortiz, you’d probably be on here dismissing it.

You can’t be taken seriously.

Wilder is the one who’s been completely overhyped.

 

Mercer Morrison's Wilder

 

Mercer-Ocasio: SD
Mercer-42 year old Holmes: UD loss
Mercer-Ferguson: UD loss
Mercer-Ferguson 2: SD
Mercer-Wilson: Draw(!)

A Mercer clone would be dismissed as a short fat light punching washed up journeyman if Wilder beat him. Just a few years ago on this forum the consensus was that Andy Ruiz and Dillian Whyte would beat Wilder but you clowns have backtracked on that now.

 

His left hook isn`t.

 

You’re hilarious.

And why are you even denying that you’re Neet?

Somebody else rumbled you before I did.

It’s all well and good looking at Mercer in a negative light, but if we did the same thing to Wilder’s opponents, what on earth would he be left with?

And yes a prime Ray Mercer would absolutely be one of Wilder’s best wins.

What’s his best win?

Ortiz?

How old is Ortiz and who has he beaten?

Then what?

Who are you left with?

Apart from Ortiz, which win of Wilder’s is there which would eclipse a win over an early 90’s Mercer?

There’s nobody.

So dismissing Mercer just weakens your argument further.

Other than Ortiz, he has no win better than what that would have been.

 

On a side not I think Ruiz would have beaten a prime Mercer.

 

Wilder is far longer and more dangerous than Morrison, Mercer wouldn`t be a ble to take Wilder`s right hand and Tommy was hitting him at will.

 

lol! Ortiz was doing far better in the rematch, he won everry round leading up to the KO, Wilder hardly landed a punch till then, he really looked bad until Ortiz made a mistake near the ropes.

 

Tyson was far better at countering the jab than Wilder is.

 

Wilder's career isn't over yet and the careers of the men he has fought and will fight are not over yet, so it's a false comparison. I read a mainstream article recently which decried Lewis's "thin resume" and this was post-Holyfield 1. But if Wilder was to beat a guy who had a poor KO record, had been schooled by a 42 year old wide underdog, lost to a journeyman and got a gift draw against a durable tomato can, I don't think he'd get much credit for it. In fact, Wilder would be slaughtered for struggling with such an underwhelming opponent, particularly if said opponent was inactive, fat, coming off a layoff and a defeat.

 

Tyson was more than a juggernaught, he was better at setting up his offense than Wilder is and a far quicker, better combo puncher, a few of Wilder`s fights have been very cagey and that`s how Holmes would have fought him, plus he`d find Wilder easier to hit with the jab than Tyson.

 

"was doing far better in the rematch, he won everry round leading up to the KO"

Low IQ. Ortiz did little to no damage in the rematch and Wilder didn't care that he was losing rounds as he was looking to knock Ortiz's head off, not pointfight. The gameplan was to take Ortiz into the later rounds and snipe him when an opportunity presented itself, which it did with over 15 minutes left. Wilder's range, speed and power means that his opponents are under considerable mental pressure at all times, which increases fatigue.

 

Pretty sure Mercer can take Wilder's right. You do know Mercer is known for his cast iron chin, yes? And Wilder makes Morrison's technique look like SRR FFS.

 

jesus christ Mark...

 

Holmes' posture reminds of the 1990s European fighters. Upright, working off the jab. He's was quicker and more slippery than that, but HtH I think he has problems against modern big men. Which is going to be the case for almost all of the classic fighters.

Athletes evolve and boxing fans in particular are susceptible to rose-tinted glasses. It's understandable because the sport itself was much more successful in the past.