Loma is a frontrunner and bully

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dude, it's right there. We all saw it. Lopez threw 100 more jabs through 5 rounds... He ran away. Period.

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  2. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    And Lopez ran away from the rematch. Hmm, it’s almost as if he knew he couldn’t beat a healthy version of Loma. Not going to argue with you because it’s not worth my time. You are free to hate any boxers you wish.
     
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  3. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" banned Full Member

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    How can he be a bully when he's a featherweight fighting as a small lightweight? I agree teos power made him hesitant in their fight. Teo Lopez is a big lightweight.
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    **** Loma, he insulted the kid (dude was beaten by a green 23 year old), was condescending and arrogant like he'd beaten Pernell Whitaker. And then he refused to put a rematch clause into the fight because he thought so little of Teo and his chances.

    There's just no way he should grant him the rematch after the way Loma treated Lopez.
     
  5. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Lopez is a coward and headcase. He showed his true colors when he refused the rematch. He’s a classless punk along with his father. Big mouth punk who I will never respect. It’s no surprise you like the guy.
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lopez is an uncouth jackass, but at least he doesn't lack self belief in the ring.
     
  7. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Right, he has so much self belief that he avoided a rematch - like the plague - with Loma after a close fight. His actions say more than the words that come from his big mouth.

    Keep supporting coward punks and puffing them up. Teo is classless and ran like a coward from a rematch after running his mouth.
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. That Lopez loss was a life lesson for Loma. Treat people with respect or what goes around comes right back around.
     
  9. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imagine thinking that someone who is natural 126 pounder, fighting at 135 much bigger and stronger guys - is a BULLY
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I knew that it would be unpopular with the people who are wearing the massive Loma love goggles. But if they just took them off for a brief second, they would see how wrong they got it.
     
  11. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Loma has never acted with anything but respect for opponents. You are delusional. I’m tired of interacting with guys like you, to be honest. Say whatever you wish, we will just disagree. That’s cool but I’m not wasting time responding further.
     
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  12. drenlou

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    A frontrunner is somebody who starts strong but gasses later in the fight. With Loma in regards to the Lopez fight he fought the total opposite.. So is he a laterunner then?
     
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  13. drenlou

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    You tell him Lance!
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    This is one fight in his third division, one he has no right being in, and he is facing giants who weigh just under 2, 2 or even 3 divisions more than him, and big punchers and massive punching KO artists who are way bigger, longer and heavier than him. He's a natural 126 pounder facing very big/massive 135 pounders who look like death on the scales. He looked healthy on them down at 126. Giving away 8-15lbs of weight and often just under 6'' in reach is a huge amount for a natural 126 pounder to be giving away

    Loma is a three-weight champ

    Beterbiev is a one weight champ and is big and very strong at the weigh

    Loma has fought way better opposition and way more world champions than Beterbiev

    Loma was a much better amateur and that's saying a lot because Beterbiev was an excellent one

    Loma is very rarely the bigger guy and he's very often the smaller one, often by a significant or huge margin in terms of weight and reach

    Beterbiev isn't outweighed by 2 or 3 divisions ever, even by lower weight class amounts

    He's tiny for 135 and he was often giving away significant or big amounts of weight, reach or both even down at 126 and 130, let alone up at 135

    Loma was the much lighter man against

    He's only had 18 fights

    Linares
    Pedraza
    Teofimo
    Commey
    Campbell
    Nakatani
    Salido
    Martinez
    Crolla
    Ramirez
    Piriyapinyo

    So that's 11 of his 18 fighters he was at least 1-3 weight divisions lighter

    He was 3lbs lighter against Sosa

    So that's 12 of his 18 fights he was lighter

    He was 0.5lbs heavier against Russell

    1lb heavier than Walters 1lb heavier against Koasicha

    11 of his 18 fights he was 1-3 divisions lighter, 12 he was lighter, and 3 he had a 1lb weight advantage of less

    So that makes 15 of his 18 fights

    Marriaga would've at worst weighed 1 or 2lbs less than him if less at all

    So that's 16 of his 18 fights where he was way lighter or 1 or 2lbs max heavier


    That just leaves 2 fights where he had a big weight advantage more than 1 or 2lbs max

    Rigo and Rodriguez and Rigo had a 2'' reach advantage on him


    Jermaine Ortiz is a big 135 pounder who has been talking about moving up to 140 for a while now

    Here's 7 prime world champions or top contenders Loma has fought at 135 alone who are way heavier than him, most 2 or even some are 3 divisions heavier than him and most of whom have big/huge reach advantages on him

    Linares
    Pedraza
    Commey
    Teofimo
    Campbell
    Nakatani
    Crolla

    With the exception of Crolla and Pedraza all are either big or huge punchers and Pedraza whilst not known as a puncher was much heavier than him too so the power is magnified



    Number of world champions fought and when you add the context regarding size, punchers fought, and fighting prime champs it gets even better for Loma

    Canelo in 19 in 61 fights
    Loma 11 in 18 fights
    Inoue 9 in 23 fights
    Crawford 9 in 38 fights
    Tank 7 in 27 fights << pure PBC smoke & mirrors
    Spence 7 in 28 fights
    Usyk 6 in 20 fights
    Taylor 5 in 19 fights
    Beterbiev 4 in 18 fights
    Haney 4 in 28 fights
    Jermello 4 in 37 fights
    Bivol 3 in 20 fights
    Jermallo 3 in 32 fights
    Wilder 3 in 45 fights
    Shakur 2 in 18 fights

    And Loma is one of the most aggressive fighters in the entire sport

    He sports some of the very best plus minus stats in the sport, despite fighting against the level of opposition and number of world champions he's fought, whilst often being the smaller/much/way smaller man and and fighting all these giants and so many big/huge punchers, many of whom much bigger and heavier than him :facepalm:

    The fact he's one of the best defensive fighters when you factor all that in an his aggressive style is astonishing

    And if you want to cite Gvozdyk's win for Beterbiev make sure you don't forget he was considered the weakest and is the weakest out of the big Ukrainian 3 behind Loma and Usyk, both amateur and pro
     
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  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Murderers row right there. Anthony Crolla will put the fear of God into any Lightweight past, present and future.