Luis Ortiz expose Fury and put the final nail in the coffin

I'm sure Tyson will be devastated that a guy who Wilder sparked twice doesn't like his behaviour .. keep reaching son

 

That the two sides were in discussions over a December date was [url]confirmed by Arum[/url] a week or so prior to Usyk's public declaration that he did not wish to box that soon.

Bob would know—he was always going to be a figure in the Fury-Usyk negotiations, given his connections to the two camps.

Besides which, Mohammad Abdulaziz confirmed that the Saudis had been approached and were interested.

I don't know that Usyk needs the R&R anywhere near as badly as you do. Take a load off, man, you're losing your marbles.

About all things Fury, and he's not alone.

One of the biggest grievances these goofs have with Tyson is that he doesn't give a crap about how his words are perceived or dissected by pundits on TV or in newsprint or on forums/social media.

They really want him to give a crap, it irks them profoundly that he doesn't. This is in part because they are typically insipid people who resent anyone who appears to be larger than life, and in part because they hate being forced to think. They want him to conform to modesty, to get on with his job in a muted, uncomplicated, straightforward manner as if he were a plasterer or a pen-pusher like them.

(Usyk is himself somewhat idiosyncratic, of course, but in a way that is much less threatening to these insecure men. The high-minded image he projects makes them feel safe around him.)

So they seize on Fury's statements as 'gotcha' material where it suits them in some vain, never-ending campaign to shame him into caring, never accomplishing anything besides making themselves appear gullible, dull and ignorant.

Fury has been issuing variegated, often contradictory comment on his career for the last fourteen years and leaving anyone who cares to figure out (with their own discernment and intuition) which of his utterances are sincere, which are complete horse****, which are a mix of the two and which are open to negotiation/compromise.

He never will care what some miserable, churlish azzhole on the internet thinks of him. He's playing whoever is dim or bitter enough to let themselves be played.

For instance, would Fury like to be paid a half a billion to box Usyk? He's going to look to secure the maximum purse he can negotiate for his participation in the most prestigious heavyweight bout money can buy. Does that mean he won't settle for much, much less than half a billion? Of course not. Yet and still, guys here have actually been attempting to weaponize that obviously grandiose and theatrical demand in discussions here.

 

Oh, and;

Like the seven-figure Usyk-Chisora buyrate that even @Mitch87 didn't give credence to, but that you blindly swallowed like a Jonestowner glugging down the grape-flavored, cyanide-laced Kool-Aid?

Fury-Chisora "won't sell s****", but Usyk-Chisora did over a million buys in the UK, remember?


Nobody with the vaguest understanding of the UK television sports audience and its sensibilities would think Usyk-Chisora could do even half that amount of buys;

But a credulous foreigner with a maniacal obsession, that's another matter.

 

for the thousandth time, Anthony Joshua is Chisora's manager.
if Chisora was always the only plan, then AJ is guilty of putting on a fake charade too, it makes AJ a central part of this grand fraud all along, this con.

you're hatred for Fury is irrational. you are mental.

 

Warren and Fury definitely could of found a better opponent had they wanted it, Ortiz called him out in Sept, Joyce also called him out, Wallin who I don't even rate would of been better and called him out too.

Fact is they wanted an easy opponent as Fury right now is clearly off the rails and Chisora is a proven draw that casual fans will pay to see even now.

But I wouldn't have used Ortiz as an example, Ortiz talks a lot but rarely walks the walk, ducked Ustinov twice, ducked Joshua twice, ducked Joyce too according to Joyce. Just because Ortiz says he's available and wants the fight doesn't mean he really wants the fight, he said he wanted Joyce and Joshua before but when offers were made was didn't take them and was happy being protected fighting journeymen on PBC for the most part.

Joyce would have been a better example. Joyce called him out and Fury said he wasn't ready yet, but also said he's the 2nd best heavyweight on the planet before Joyce called him out. So what is it? Is Joyce the 2nd best or an unknown who's just KO'ed a former champion for the first time in front of a sell out crowd.

 

if Fury destroys Usyk in March, this guy will be saying it doesn't count.
Lol

"Fury cheated"
"Fury used his size"
"Fury would have lost if he fought him 3 weeks earlier"

 

Fury v Chisora is an awful fight. it warrants being ignored completely.

but these haters can't stop thinking about Fury. the obsession is immense.

 

It might've been an exposure if I hadn't already posted this (and all the material quoted therein);

So, where it concerns Fury, you have one blown call or misapprehension on my part. Shall we dig through your back catalogue and count yours? There's a lot of material there.

 

Yawn

 

do you think fury ortiz would have done better numbers then ?