Top 10 H2H Heavyweights

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Feel free to make a list of your own.
    Top 10 H2H Heavyweights of all time.
     
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  2. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mike Tyson
    Louis
    Ali
    LL
    Foreman
    Holmes
    Liston
    Holyfield
    Marciano
    JJW

    Jefferies

    and a Wildcard like Norton, to represent DOZENS of Top Men, who might too beat, on the night, some of these guys and equally many of their fellow peers over the years of HW Boxing.

    Fury makes NO Lists!!!
     
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  3. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    1-Prime Joe Louis
    2-60's Ali
    3-Steward era Lewis
    4-prime Liston
    5-Wladmir Klitschko
    6-Holyfield
    7-early 80's Holmes
    8-early 70's Foreman
    9-80's Tyson
    10-Usyk
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    These aren't set in stone, but that's generally where I have them. You can put peak Frazier anywhere from 9-10. Foreman and Holmes are pretty much the same level overall but I didn't want the list to be confusing with two names in one spot. Lewis and Liston are close. Ali and Louis are two of the best at their respective styles (mover, boxer puncher). Vitali can be anywhere from 10-15 due to sheer size, chin, and work rate.
     
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  4. Soul Surviva

    Soul Surviva New Member banned Full Member

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    Are we talking h2h matchups or h2h rankings?

    If we're talking h2h rankings I would probably pick anyone from the last 25 years to beat anyone from previous era, with one or two exceptions.

    As far as h2h matchups, my dream list would include:

    Jack Johnson vs Jack Dempsey.
    Riddick Bowe vs Mike Tyson
    Marciano vs Liston
    Primo Carnera vs Johnny Ruiz.
    AJ vs Wilder.
    Joe Louis vs Michael Spinx.
    Holyfield vs Usyk
     
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  5. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali
    Holmes
    Tyson
    Lewis
    Louis
    Holyfield
    Foreman
    Vitali
    Frazier
    Bowe
     
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  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    FOTC Frazier
    Ali
    Louis
    Holmes
    Tyson or Liston
    Lewis (Steward-era)
    Holyfield
    Foreman
    Dempsey
    Bowe
     
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  7. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    A good question to immediately explain the topic with an example:
    Would peak Wladimir Klitschko beat peak Joe Louis?
    Write down such top 10 H2H heavyweights, and this is a blank template:
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  8. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Mike Tyson
    Muhammad Ali
    Larry Holmes
    Joe Louis
    Riddick Bowe
    Sonny Liston
    Lennox Lewis
    George Foreman
    Vitali Klitschko
    Baby Joe Mesi
     
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  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Ali
    2. Holmes
    3. Joe Louis
    4. Bowe
    5. Lewis
     
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  10. bboyrei

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    Louis
    Liston
    Ali
    Frazier
    Tyson
    Lewis
    Holmes
    Vitali
    Foreman
    Holyfield
     
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  11. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So how high would you rank Fury on a H2H list? Somewhere in the top-50... or maybe even lower than that?
     
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  12. Philly161

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    Sorry classic but I am going towards the big boys here. This isn't a greatness list so p4p ability is only relevant if I think it allows them to often beat much larger men. So it's have to be guys I have evidence beating much larger men.

    Ali
    Holyfield
    Tyson
    Wlad
    Vitali
    Holmes
    Lewis
    Fury
    Louis
    Bowe

    Not in an order. I know including fury is controversial. Again this isn't a greatness list it's a h2h against the whole field of heavyweights of all time. He has great physical gifts and has shown himself able to beat big punchers as well as technicians and those tough littler guys like wallin and Cunningham. He doesn't have any obvious stylistic weaknesses ATM so that is probably influencing me but this is my list rn.
     
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  13. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Mike Tyson
    2. Lennox Lewis
    3. Vitali Klitschko
    4. Tyson Fury
    5. Sonny Liston
    6. Riddick Bowe
    7. Larry Holmes
    8. Wladimir Klitschko
    9. Evander Holyfield
    10. Muhammad Ali
     
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  14. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In my opinion including Vitali is more controversial than Fury.
     
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  15. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How are you doing your H2H rankings to leave out Ali, Louis, a young Holmes, a young Tyson, etc? Saying "in the last 25 years" gets you Emanuel Steward trained Lennox Lewis for the top of your list, but leaves out more than "one or two" other guys who would definitely be at the top as well.
     
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