Joe Joyce vs 70s George Foreman

You mean how Tyson Fury got knocked down by light punching 180 pound Steve Cunnigham and light punching Nevin Pajkic?

 

Don't even bother Gman is clearly just trolling for attention. Joe Joyce was bullied around the ring by 6'2 200 pound Usyk for crying out loud but he acts like Ali , Larry Holmes, and Jimmy Young couldn't do the same.

 

joyce manhandle wee foreman he is to wee he relied on his size well he has no size against joe joyce who is big strong and fitter than foreman ever was better skills foreman technique was a right laugh

 

Lol Foreman actually knocked out a 6'7 250 pound guy before. Foreman didn't rely on his size. If you want to use that logic Joyce relies on this size. Second Joyce isn't strong. Which is why Usyk was able to push him around the ring.. Third Joyce isn't bigger than Foreman. He is taller than Foreman. Foreman weighed more than Joyce. Joyce has to bulk up as he got older. Joyce is out of shape and no where near the condition Foreman was in. Joe Joyce is the slowest heavyweight I ever saw. But yeah Foreman's technique was bad because you say so.

There should be a part of this forum just little kids who don't know boxing. They shouldn't be allow to post in this section.

 

lol you are going on about joyce when he was a pup when he had only just started boxing no many years before that lol he is much more weight behind him now he is a huge man who has great stamina joyce would batter him and would knock him out

lol i am laffing cos your going on about a match from about 10 year ago usyk joyce

 

Joyce was 27/28 years old . If you want to use your logic then why do you bring up a 20 something year old Foreman? When Foreman was 38 he weighed 270 pounds. Also I am blocking you now. I don't deal with trolls. Troll for attention with somebody else.

 

I think you're wrong, check wikipedia and you'll see runing records set in 1912.
400m record that man did in 1930s is still not broken, so that thing about today guys being better is not that true.

 

Yeah, I see.

 

Foreman never beat anyone over 235 and never once faced a big weight deficit in his career. He also never beat a top 10 heavyweight who outweighed him so he pretty clearly benefited from his size.

Joyce has shown an incredible work rate throwing 800 plus punches per fight so his size hasn't negatively impacted his stamina.

 

No, the WBO was not an established belt inthe 90`s, Mercer not considered a serious champ and neither was Morrison.

 

Fury doesn`t have Earnie Shavers power, I only rate his power 7/10 despite the beautiful uppercut that took Whyte out.

 

I can say with a complete perfection of Confidence & Ceaseless Equanimity that you are completely, indisputably, 100% guaranteed to be WRONG.
I will hyperlink all the evidence below: please either provide any proof that you are correct (which does not exist)...
Or show me that you are not Ego-bound & irrationally defend your position without any evidence-admit your mistake.

Of course there were records set in 1912 & other years-but your claim is that there are running records set in the 1930's that were not broken, & that is absolutely untrue.
The best times & distances from then in ANY event, track or field, would not be at all competitive today at the elite level.
That goes for the COLLEGE level too.
For fun, try to find a 1930's world record that has not been SURPASSED at the University level.
Even though people from that time had the advantage of hand timing (universally recognized as slower than reality)
You will be looking long, hard, & likely with no success...

Now part of it is better track conditions, equipment when relevant, like shoes, PEDs...
Yet even without those things, so many more people participating from a much larger world population with much greater technology/science & nutrition means that even if they used the same tracks & equipment, nobody from the 1930's would have any world records today.
Here are the world records for men & woman. You nee to click on the top of the chart for men, woman, indoor & outdoor:
[url]https://www.worldathletics.org/records/by-category/world-records[/url]
Followed by those for College.
[url]https://trackandfieldnews.com/records/mens-collegiate-records[/url]
Then High School.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_high_school_national_records_in_track_and_field[/url]

There are NO overall world records before the 1980's that still stand-& even those are rare.
When you see an earlier one at the school levels, it is likely due to an event being rarely run or discontinued-like yards instead of meters.

For the 1930's? The record for the 400 meters was set at 46.0 in 1939.
In 2004 the best HIGH SCHOOL runner beat that time.
Check the charts to confirm that last year the record for the 400 meter HURDLES was better than anything ever done in the 400 meter RUN in the 1930's!

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No. The training programs and weight lifting and nutrition have but what hasn’t improved is the experience! Most great fighters had thriple the experience! That’s what makes CB them better.

No. Due to the times we live in. The sport of Boxing is not even within the top 2 major sports these days within the World anymore.

In the 1940s to the 1970s boxing was the biggest sport in the world.

It isn't today.

I truly believe that life truly was much harder back then then it's today. Due the sport having more participants, and people taking part than today.were dependant on the sport And the skill level was much better then it is today

People of those generations were not as well off as we are today. Yes, there are places in the world that are still in a very, very bad way indeed.

But back then in the richest country in the world (USA). The Proverty levels were much more severe and of a problem, than it is today.

People were desperate. Read the life stories of George Foreman, Jack Dempsey, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sonny Liston, Jersey Joe Walcott, , Jake la Matta etc,etc

Then compare their training methods, the amounts of fights that had to complete and the money that they were being paid to them wasn't good; plus the Mafia tenticles within the sport taking a cut from every boxers purse….Also fights were longer; much longer..

We don't and don't think we ever see again within Boxing. World Championship Title fights being staged over 15 rounds ever again.

We will not see World boxing champions, fighting for more than 2 fights per year. If that.

Marciano nose came apart in one world championship fight, and was allowed to continue. Would it be allowed to happen today?

I will give you an example. If you love defensive fighters many fight fans of today cite Floyd Mayweather Jr as the defensive fight of all times.

But many forget about Willie Pep.

 

This is a classic if extreme case of avoidance, of spiritual bypassing...
You wrote a bunch of things that I knew forever & never disputed.
Except that it is arguable what generation is more skilled, since certain technologies & size & strength can provide advantages just like experience can, so sometimes this trumps in ring technique, sometimes not...

But do you realize that at best you were unintentionally completely ignoring everything I wrote?
Because you could not contest things like your mistake that any track & field records remain from the 1930's, & how it is rare for them to exist from the 1980's, & that both equipment AND raw ability have improved, & that the 1930's 400 meter record has been absolutely dwarfed over time, & collegiate are better than the best humans from that time...

It seems your Ego could not handle, could not even address, anything I said.
So at least subconsciously you applied misdirection.
You wrote "no" a couple of times.
BUT everything you then said was

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anything I wrote or disproved with many hyperlinks about what YOU said.
Which means it makes zero sense to say "no": since you could not argue the Truth of *anything* I wrote.

Instead you introduced entirely new claims.
Look you are new here.
IF you want to get along, be respected, be known as Fair & Rational...
You gotta respect the effort of those who debate you politely.

Don't IGNORE everything they show & prove & then shift the arguments or goalposts to something else entirely.
That is not how you would like to be treated.

 

Its hard for me to pick someone with no head movement to beat prime George Foreman. I understand the whole bigger and more stamina thing but I think George Foreman probably stops him in the first 7