Ron Lyle vs Corrie Sanders (Bump poll added)

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Devon, Jun 27, 2020.


Who wins?

  1. Lyle KO/TKO

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  2. Lyle PTS

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    0.0%
  3. Sanders KO/TKO

    75.0%
  4. Sanders PTS

    0 vote(s)
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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lyle’s age is documented. It’s at the end of his career. If that defines him, I guess we should rate Ray Robinson by his loss to Memo Ayon and Ali by his loss to Berbick? You don’t believe that.

    Yet Corrie lost in his physical prime to Nate freakin Tubbs, lol. No way around it, he got flat KO’d. That’s meaningful.

    So tell me, how is Ross Puritty — a career journeyman and Sanders’ second-best win — a better win than Shavers or Bugner or Bonavena or Jimmy Ellis or Buster Mathis or Peralta? All of those guys were better than Puritty.
     
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  2. BCS8

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    So you're saying he wasn't in his 40's and looking like a beach ball? Is that what you are saying?

    Lennox got flatlined by Rahman. Guess he's a bum.
    1) That's your opinion that he's his second best win
    2) Puritty's best win is better than any of those guys.
    3) You seem really invested in this.
     
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  3. Saintpat

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    You’re the one who seems invested. I’m just replying to you.

    Ron Lyle was 38 years old when he lost to Lynn Ball and on a comeback that ended shortly after with him getting wrecking balled by Gerry Cooney. Not the same Lyle who was beating top guys years earlier. Of course you know this but for some reason you grasped at straws to equate that to Corrie getting blitzkrieged by Nate Tubbs in Sanders’ prime.

    Rahman and Corrie are two peas in a pod, one-hit wonders remembered for one win. I guess two in Rahman’s case for you since Hasim put Sanders to sleep.

    1) Yes it’s my opinion that Puritty is Sanders’ second-best win. What is your opinion?

    2) LOL. Ross was a journeyman who had like 10 losses by the time Sanders beat him and he was STILL Corrie’s second-best win.

    3) Like I said, I’m just responding to you.

    This really seems to bother you that your great South African prince (who I admire greatly for his heroism in shielding innocents to take bullets in a robbery that killed him, but less so for his tissue-thin boxing resume) just doesn’t have anything but one meaningful fluke win in his entire career. Maybe you should look up some of his great golf wins instead.
     
  4. BCS8

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    Sanders was 37 against Wlad and 38 against Vitali, and gave them both hell. What's Lyle's excuse?

    So you reckon Lewis is rubbish for getting flatlined by Rahman?

    1) Du Plooy, Cooper, Czyz, Cole and perhaps Williams would be in the running.
    2) Shavers, who has 14 losses to such ATG boxers like Bob Stallings and Ron Stander is considered a milestone in Lyle's career :lol:
    3) I reckon you have a Nate Tubbs shrine at home ;)
     
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  5. Saintpat

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    Lewis had a lot of quality wins. Sanders has one. Rahman knocking out Lewis (avenged) was a huge upset. Rahman knocking out Sanders wasn’t. Especially after Nate Tubbs knocked his block off.

    I don’t have any shrines that could compare to yours for Corrie Sanders, lol.

    The fact that you mention a middleweight and a cruiserweight among Corrie’s best wins say it all.

    Make your case that Sanders was anything special apart from a one-hit wonder. You can’t because that’s what he was.
     
  6. zadfrak

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    Lyle was ruined by the Foreman fight. The only chance he has is a version prior to that and I do not think his defense is up to par against a southpaw firing straight shots and a nasty right hook. Back then, there was literally no southpaw heavies to spar with, let alone to mimick a tall guy with fast hands. And Lyle had a decent corner but hardly among the sports best. So I do not see him having any sort of pre-fight preperations to deal with this guy.

    Hell, I think a southpaw like Tony Thompson decisions Lyle. Think Ron would have lots more defensive troubles against the tall guys around in recent times.
     
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  7. BCS8

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    Yeah but still, he was flattened. Sounds like his chin was garbage. Right?
    Apparently you light candles to Nate Tubbs at night. He's your guardian angel

    Apparently you're quite ignorant of Sanders' opponents. He never fought at cruiser or middle.
     
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  8. Saintpat

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    Bobby Czyz was a puffed-up middleweight. Cole was a cruiser. You ranked those as two of his best wins.
     
  9. BCS8

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    You're a liar if you're saying Sanders fought them at middleweight or cruiser.
     
  10. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure - because, obviously, being a southpaw and an inch taller, combine to form the 'magic bullet', against a well-rounded boxer like Lyle, who had a great right-cross, solid left-hook and wasn't shy about going to the body.

    Tony Thompson? :lol: It's a wonder why he wasn't a perennial Ring-Rated Top-10 entry, during the noughties and teenies, (amongst perhaps the shallowest pool of HWs in the division's history) - a bit like Lyle was a staple of the division, during the '70s (Ring-Rated Top-5, seven-years running).


    An interesting take, though - if nothing else.
     
  11. NoNeck

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    Purrity didnt actually lose much during his prime. He went something like 16-2-1 with good opposition mixed in. You're doing the Jimmy Young argument.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    Some folks think Ross did enough to beat Morrison, too, and they have a decent case.
     
  13. Man_Machine

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    :lol: You're a never-ending source of hilarity!
     
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  14. NoNeck

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    George Foreman themed pillows with a Ron Lyle night cap.
     
  15. Saintpat

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    LOL. He went 8-8 in his first 16 fights. Then he drew with Morrison (so 8-8-1 but a nice result vs. Tommy Gunn) and someone thought they could build him up so bought him 10 wins a row — one of those was against a 4-1 guy in Puritty’s 25th fight, the only opponent with a winning record in that stretgh … the combined record of the other nine opponents in that stretch is 15-77-2.

    That got Puritty to 18-8-1 with six wins over fighters with winning records (some of the 3-0 variety, none really notable). Then he lost 5 of his next 10 and that’s kinda how it went.

    He was never a prospect. He was a journeyman.
     
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