Dmitry Yuryevich Bivol vs. Gilberto Ramírez Sánchez & Shavkatdzhon Rakhimov vs. Zelfa Barrett RBR.

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  1. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    People are saying this about Lomachenko, this is who you’re referring to right? If anything he has been greatly underrated by boxing fans because he doesn’t have the casual fans 0 on the end of his record. He’s still arguably pound for pound the best fighter in the sport. He is the favourite boxer of your favourite boxer. Potentially overrated by pros/experts who rate him as the best they’ve ever seen, and definitely underrated by fans who think those official losses to Salido and Teo mean anything.
     
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  2. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    The problem for Bivol is that he uses parries and footwork for his defense, Beterbiev has greatly underrated footwork for closing distance, and Beterbiev varies the tempo and range of his punches so Bivol’s parries are not going to be effective. That leaves a covering up defense for Bivol. I predict Beterbiev will stop him with a body shot. Zurdo was rubbish because he was slow and predictable, Beterbiev is a master of timing (as is Bivol). I fail to see where Bivol can win the fight.
     
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  3. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    If that's how you feel about it, keep on truckin'. Enough of a realistic perspective on Lomachenko has been widely realized by now that I don't feel any particular motivation to break it all down.
     
  4. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Zurdo was too soft and insecure, I expected more from him...
     
  5. fenoc1

    fenoc1 Active Member Full Member

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    Unless Beterbiev catches Bivol with a big shot then he hasn't got a chance. He's too old now and hasn't the intensity to beat Bivol.
     
  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I agree it was a dominant performance.
     
  7. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manufactured records expose you in the end

    The truth always finds you
     
  8. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bivol would have to be on his bike for 36 minutes against Beterbiev

    I cant see him avoiding any clinches tbh
     
  9. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Embarrassing, but what's worse is the fact that the Fighter didn't give it his all especially with all his interviews saying people should Bet their House on him, sad.
     
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  10. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I still slightly favour Beterbiev. People don't land on Bivol. No one does, so every punch must be made to count, including those which find shoulders and arms. And when a punch finds the chin or body each must leave an impression. Every punch Beterbiev throws, hurts. And Bivol doesn't have the fight-ending power to stop Beterbiev seeking those few potentially decisive openings.

    That said, I'm not at all confident about all of the above. It's just a gut feeling...
     
  11. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Many have clearly overrated Ramirez' capabilities and resume. Bivol was good, but there are many better at that weight alone
     
  12. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Dominant low blows were in full effect
     
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  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev, Usyk, Kovalev, Pacquiao, Margarito, Froch, Morales, Hagler, Hearns would never back down in the face of a physically strong and technically competent opponent the way that Loma has done or the way Zurdo did last night.

    Those are my type of guys. That's a fighter. After last night I can no longer call myself a fan of Zurdo.
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    So... I guess you missed him, not backing down against physically strong and technically competent opponents like Linares, Walters, Campbell, Pedraza, Commey, Nakatani and Ortiz then. Because that criteria covers most of them. How about get your story straight, he took it easy for 6 rounds against a massive Welterweight with a huge KO punch, because he went into the match injured, and thought he could close strong, and close strong he did, but it was too little too late. Then he got surgery immediately following the match and was out for almost a year. It seems like you'd have a little compassion for the man, after all, the aforementioned Pacquiao had a shoulder injury like Loma, which is why he supposedly **** the bed against Mayweather.
     
  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pac while more than a half decade past prime was beaten by Mayweather. So what? Means nothing to me as far as my fandom is concerned.