Prime for Prime, Dmitrii Bivol vs. Roy Jones Jr ?

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Prime for Prime, Dmitry Bivol vs. Roy Jones Jr ?

Poll closed Dec 12, 2022.
  1. Dmitry Bivol

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  2. Roy Jones Jr

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  1. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    With all due respect to Bivol, but Roy would beat him in his prime.
     
  2. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Jones takes a hard fought decision, his speed and variety of punch proving to be too much for Bivol.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Roy wouldn't beat VADA let alone Pastor Dmitry who would figuratively speaking baptize him in Eurasian urine.

    Pascal was basically a poor man's Roy only difference being he had a titanium chin whereas Roy's is made out of wafer and eggshell.

    Everyone knows Roy avoided savage punchers like the plague in his prime but when you hold his CV up to the light there's also a very noticeable dearth of speedsters on it too and unlike all those slow coach plodders Roy feasted on Bivol possesses the speed of hand and foot to catch him on that old lady chin of his and I definitely see him putting Roy to sleep in this one with a big right hand counter. And Roy didn't like the Soviet style at all and Bivol is one of the best exponents of it.
     
  4. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    B Hop and Toney are better fighters than Prince Dmitry Bivol. I love Bivol but get real.
     
  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Well said Sir.
     
  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    When did Prince Dmitry become a Pastor. Bivol is my guy but he and RJJ at their best only goes one way. In fact it’s doubtful anyone P4P beat RJJ at his best and their best. He was an absolute freak of nature. Yes his fundamentals were not Floyd’s which only meant he became vulnerable when past his athletic prime and unlike Muhammad Ali did not have an iron chin.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Pastor Dmitry baptized himself at birth.

    Roy was always packing glass he was just able to keep it hidden for a long time due to his ability to navigate his way through his prime years avoiding savage punchers which to be fair is a skill, perhaps even his greatest one, and jacking himself full of steroids.

    Most of these LHW plodders he fought were too slow to catch him but as soon as Tarver, who actually believed in himself and was aware of the fact Roy was packing glass, shattered that wafer chin and aura of invincibility Roy's opponents started to believe in themselves too and they subsequently realized they'd been sold a lie about him being Superman.

    But Bivol is super fast with mongoose-like reflexes and that right hand of his would zero in like a homing missile on that old lady glass chin of Roy's and that would be all she wrote.
     
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  8. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Find evidence that RJJ is "better" than Bivol...
     
  9. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Bivol is fast and has very good fundamenbtals but RJJ's speed and athleticism is next level. RJJ fundamentals were not next level which is why once his speed and athleticism were compromised by age only, then did he become susceptible. Both at their best Dimitry loses. In his prime years and it gives me no joy to say it but RJJ was pretty unbeatable ask my guy James "Lights Out" Toney a guy with excellent fundamentals trained by a master trainer in the late Bill Miller. We need to see Prince Dmitry against his country man King Arthur Beterbiev, David Benaivides and the Prince Joshua Buatsi of Ghana. If he overcomes these challenges then we can then evaluate him properly. I don't remember RJJ failing drugs test like some British fighters have done nor do I remember him serving a ban for such. Roy was not superman that was Muhammed Ali as we called him the black super man. I think Prince Dmitry has greatness in him. You will remember I was one of those who correctly predicted he would be too much for Canelo when they made the match. He will stop Canelo in a rematch should it happen.
     
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  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Toney would be a very hard fight for Bivol. I would pick Toney to beat him. But Bivol would schools Hopkins. We have seen that Hopkins cannot handle speed.
     
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  11. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    I agree with Toney beating Bivol and agree with Bivol beating Hopkins but Bivol must be careful not to get mugged by Hopkins.
     
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  12. Holler

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    You're right to highlight his unorthodox brilliance, but I don't think the version of RJJ we saw makes it past the testing process.
     
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  13. VLDS7

    VLDS7 New Member banned Full Member

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    But all your greats are now in NFL and NBA yea ?:D:D and they migrated as soon as boxing became more global and ped testing got more strict .
    They never excelled at amateur boxing , I guess it’s because they had to face boxers from all around the world without having 3 american judges on their side.
    I know it’s hard for you to understand , but your boxers are as good as MMA fighters , you have zero american champions in UFC , you’d prob have zero champions in boxing if best fought the best like they do in UFC.
     
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  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody has a lot of names
     
  15. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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