1970 Liston vs Mac Foster

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  1. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Apparently, as I’ve read from older threads on this site, it was only Marshall’s own account that claimed he dropped Liston in their rematch. Otherwise, available contemporary reports made no mention of a KD and there are no sources otherwise testifying to a KD.
     
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  2. CrouchStanceBoxing

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    I don't know that Marshall would lie?
    But there are no many infos about that fight.
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

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    Laughed out loud at this. :lol:

    Biggest clown on the forum.
     
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  4. swagdelfadeel

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    Nope. More than that, he never beat ONE top ten contender, and was nearly knocked out by a literally shot Williams.
     
  5. CrouchStanceBoxing

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    Yeah he was almost knocked that much, that he sent Williams flying around the ring yeah.
    And he knocked him twice so you can not stop spreading your Lies ha ha.
     
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    Biggest clown?
    I would say ttat the biggest clown is a guy who would always find excuses when their heros lost.
     
  7. CrouchStanceBoxing

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    Despite the way Liston describes it, Marshall has his own version of how things happened. Liston liked to say that his jaw was broken in the first round while he had his mouth open, laughing at the way Marshall fought. But, according to Marshall, that is not actually how things happened. And, Marty’s version was supported by an article in the Detroit Press in September, 1954.
    However, Marshall says that Liston took defeat in style and came to Marty’s dressing room afterwards, complimented him on the fight, and said he would like to fight Marshall again. That opportunity came about seven months later in April, 1955, however, Marshall did boxing as a moonlight occupation. He had a regular job at a paint store. He used to take the day off work on the day of the fight, and reported for work the next day. For their second fight, Marshall received three days notice. Although the fight started out almost like a repeat of their first fight, Sonny was smarter this time. However, Marshall knocked Liston down in the fifth round. It may have been the first time Liston had been down in his career. But Liston got up, and Marshall, in what he admitted was a foolish deed, went all in for the knockout. It didn’t work. In the sixth round the referee stopped the fight after Liston knocked down Marshall for the fourth time.
     
  8. Pugguy

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    Do you have and can you provide the Detroit Press article Sep54? Thanks.

    If the contemporary reports didn’t detail it and Marshall is the only one to state he knocked Liston down, then Marshall’s claim is questionable.

    If you see no reason for Marshall to lie (and there are a numbers of reasons why he might lie in all possibility), would you believe Liston if he made the same claim without any other evidence in support?
     
  9. CrouchStanceBoxing

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    I have a picture of that article, where I can send you that?
    After all this, I think that Marshall wasn't lying.
     
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  10. Pugguy

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    Cheers. If you don’t have a digital copy already you could scan it and upload the scan to an online image storage site and link the URL for same in your post. Not that you have to of course, but that’s the process I believe.

    Re believing Marshall - fair enough, that’s up to you.
     
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    I would try my best, I found picture on Quora so I would post link that anyone can see.
     
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  12. Pugguy

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    Sure, that would be best. Thanks.
     
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    [url]https://www.linkpicture.com/q/main-qimg-78ef05cbdf383a3cc83cbb1b07d793e2-lq.jpeg.jpg[/url]
    Try this.
     
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  14. Pugguy

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    Sweet. Thanks, I will. Just a tad busy right now.
     
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  15. swagdelfadeel

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    "Nine years later, in the fall of 1969 when Williams was over the hill and trying to recapture some of his old magic, he seemed to stumble into a time warp and revisit the Liston fights against another hungry contender in former Marine, Mac Foster. In September of that year, Mac stopped Cleve in the fifth round in Fresno. In November the two men locked horns in another thriller and Foster knocked out Williams in the third at Houston.

    Ring Magazine described it as "a thrill-packed session which began with Williams rushing out of his corner and attacking with a crisp left hook at close range. A sharp right hand buckled Foster’s knees. It seemed as if the Big Cat had regained his old power and was showing young Foster how it ought to be done."

    “But Mac fought back with a vengeance. They slugged it out with lefts and rights, with Williams seemingly having an edge in the furious exchange. Foster shot a vicious left hook to the Big Cat’s jaw which floored him. After Cleve arose, another hook sent him back to the canvas. A few moments later, Foster landed a tremendous left hook to Williams’ jaw, then crashed a right and it was all over. Williams fell heavily to the floor.”

    Source: [url]http://archive.boxing.media/careful_with_that_cleaver_cleve.html[/url]

    "Before the third round Williams was instructed by his corner that boxing was getting him nowhere and to use his only remaining weapon of substantial value—the left hook. At the bell he charged off his stool with a barrage of hooks and rights to the head and body and Foster was momentarily stunned—rather more than he likes to admit—by a hook that would have knocked out a lesser man."

    Source: [url]https://vault.si.com/vault/1970/01/05/the-fighting-marine-they-named-macarthur[/url]


    The only liar here is you saying Chuvalo and O'holloran never spoke of Williams' power and said O'holloran chose Lyle as the hardest puncher he faced without backing it up with a shred of evidence.