Exactly where does GGG rate at 160??

Yes I'm well aware of Canelo's controversial decisions, but were not saying Canelo is a top 10 Middleweight of all time are we.

 

I had it 7-5 for Golovkin but I wouldn't say a draw was totally out of the question, definitely not in the same league as Lewis vs Holyfield 1. But Golovkin was unlucky to not get the nod in their 1st meeting, but the other 2 fights were scored fairly IMO. And as I keep saying Golovkin's wins vs Jacobs, Dereyanchenko, are also controversial aswell.

 

How could he be? He has one title defense. He's like Jermain Taylor to the middleweights. He has one controversial win over the long reigning champ. Who was the better middleweight, Hopkins or Taylor? The one who was the long reigning champ, thats who.

 

Canelos MW resume consists of Daniel Jacobs, GGG himself as well as Miguel Cotto. Although not the best of resumes by any means it certainly triumphs GGGs top wins of Jacobs, Murata and Lemiuex. I don’t think sprinkling titles defenses over Dominic Wade, Curtis Stevens, Steve Rolls, Willie Monroe, Gabe Rosado, Rubio, Geale, Martirosyan, Osumanu??, ishida or Fuchigami would help Canelos MW standing at all, it’s kind of a joke of MW defenses tbh.

 

See how deep robberies cut? Canelo can boast a win over GGG to go along with Cotto and Jacobs, but GGG gets a loss to Canelo and a draw. So smart a$#%& like you can come around and talk b.s. A win over GGG is huge and a win over Canelo is huge. How come only one can boast a win. Get it? You have to throw in the win over Canelo to get a proper perspective.

 

Well that's what I'm saying.....so how does 1 win over Canelo automatically sky rocket Golovkin up to top 10 ? I'm giving Golovkin the benefit of the doubt of the unofficial win over Canelo. I mean I've said it you've said it yourself Canelo ain't no great Middleweight, so with Golovkin's average resume would a win over Canelo really get him in the top 10 ? Well that's up for you to decide.

 

But as I keep telling you if your willing to give Golovkin unofficial wins, then you also have to look at Golovkin's controversial wins over Jacobs, Dereyanchenko, that's only fair is it not ? I thought Golovkin barely scrapped by Jacobs and lost to Dereyanchenko. And I also didn't have a problem with Canelo getting the nod in fights 2 and 3 vs Golovkin.

The fact is the 5 fights which stand out in Golovkin's resume are 3 fights vs Canelo, Jacobs, Dereyanchenko. And they're all debatable some in Golovkin's favour and some not.

 

And even if we are; GGG didn't actually win against Canelo. Ignoring the bias Canelo has gotten is wrong, but taking it upon oneself to rewrite the result of a fight is extremely arrogant. Two of those judges weren't paid off, and they're much better at scoring than anybody who posts on here.

 

His competition was not very good to put him as number 1. I don’t see how you could make that argument.

 

I think it’s fair as fans talking casually to award wins that go against the official decision when rating fighters. It’s part of boxing discussion. There is no way Canelo won the first fight imo.

 

Canelo didn't win the first fight.

 

Just because they didn't score as blatantly as Adylide Byrde doesn't mean they werent paid off or looking to get on steady.

 

Sorry, meant no way it was a draw.

 

You could say that about absolutely any judge though. Also interesting you keep dodging simle questions by latching on to a supposed robbery.

Answer these please:
1. Does beating Canelo once or even three times make GGG a top 10 MW?
2. Where do you rank Canelo at MW?
3. What about GGG's own close wins? Which, by the way, comprise his only other good wins (pretending he beat Canelo of course).
4. Are Jacobs and Dere., in isolation, good enough to get him near the top 10?

 

Actually he was asking me about why i think GGG is a top 10 all time middleweight long before i even ranked him. Eventually i did say top 10 to 15. What i can say with conviction is he is a sure hall of famer and one of the best middleweights of all time.