Fury's resume isn't any better than Chris Byrd's

OK - Well - Given that the title of the thread is "Fury's resume isn't any better than Chris Byrd's", it seems reasonable to have viewed their entire resumes in the comparison.

If you are simply comparing the names you cite from each ledger, then I address those comparisons within the same post.

Fury pitched a shut-out before forcing Chisora to retire on his stool.

I would agree, however, that the Tua bout was one of Byrd's best performances, if not THE best performance of his career.

 

You might reasonably make that argument.

 

Nobody ever mentions the elephant in the room, and that is Fury's career being one of unfulfilled potential.

He was inactive from 2015 - 2018 owing to his personal demons.

In hindsight there was almost certainly nobody capable of beating him during this period.

On top of that he loses well over a year to the global pandemic.

These were the timeframes when his resume should have been built.

 

I can agree with the sentiment that talk of Fury as an All-Time Great is aspirational, to say the least.

In my opinion and subject to his adding Usyk, as well as Joshua wins to his resume, Fury might, at best, be in the conversation for Top-20.

 

Agreed.

And, a lot of the regard paid to Fury is really set against the backdrop of low expectations. Firstly, as the underdog against Wlad. Then, having suffered a mental and physical breakdown, being considered washed up, only to make a comeback against the most dangerous of punchers in modern times.

It makes for a great story and his success, in the face of these 'odds', elevates him greatly. But there's no getting away from the gaps in his resume, compared with other All-Time Greats.





With all of that said... ... ...Chris Byrd???

 

Fury--Wlad, Wilderx2 and a draw, Whyte. Two time champion, two title defenses, 1 ATG beaten. Undefeated.

Formean--Frazier x 2, Lyle, Norton, Moorer. Two time champion, two titles defenses, one ATG beaten. 5 loses (and a gift over Schultz).

Yeah, I'd say he's not far from top ten consideration.

 

This is a wrong assumption.

Wladimir was fired up and as motivated as any time in his career. He badly wanted to beat Fury.

But there two reason why he approached that fight so seriously
1. Because of Manny Stewarts appraisal of Fury when they worked together.
2. Wlad was fighting for legacy , not for money. Beating Fury breaks Joe Louis record for title defences.

Klitschko said failure is not an option. This mantra was printed on the walls , the ring , his gear , his t-shirts .. everywhere.

 

I like Chris but I don’t think his win list is better than Fury’s. And then there are also the losses Byrd had to factor into the equation

 

Embarrassing Tua is wildly exaggerated, and Tua was far from a difficult guy to outbox.

 

Don't worry he's not. I never meet one historian or serious fan saying Chris Byrd was top ten all time great. Vitali chances to rematch Byrd proved to be difficult when Byrd signed with Don King and King held his singed men for IBF title matches with Byrd. It true. Opponents Andrew Golota, Hasim Rhaman, John Ruiz, Evander Hoylfiled, and Jamil Mcline, Fres Oquedno, and David Tua were fought by Byrd. I think the all were politically allied at the time with Don King. Men who he fought for the IBF belt from 2002-2007 or were in position for it. VK wasn't invited. I agree for a resume stand point he should have re-matched Byrd but by the end of Vital's activity Byrd faded form the scene. I would have rather seen Vitali vs Byrd II over say Vitali vs. Sonowski! But again Byrd wasn't a suitable opponent by then.

 

Byrd is underrated, its very impressive what he did considering he wasn't a real heavyweight

 

I get it, You're trolling. Better be, otherwise doesn't speak well for you.

 

I'll give you the answer.... Nothing. His biggest claim to fame is beating Wilder 3 times. And Wilder would be Jeff Sims in the 70's early 80's.
Sims biggest achievement was cutting Ali. Ali at the beginning of his dark journey with Parkinson disease, and who shouldn't have been allowed in a boxing ring at least 2 yrs earlier.
Fury is the best heavyweight in an extremely bad era of heavyweight boxing. That's it.
Not a resume to considered ATG.