Peak Cleveland Williams v Champ Jersey Joe Walcott

Cough cough, Black Herculers.

 

But did he died from result of bad kidneys?
Nope, he died because he has hit by a car not because bad kidneys.

Lyle died from wounds from prison.
There is a full autobiography of him which you can find.
He died because some organs were damaged from prison stabbing, but it got worse because his age.
Again Lyle died from things in his stomach while Williams died because he was hit by car.

Williams was stabbed in his prime while Lyle was stabbed when he was young, he was not even able to hit his full prime because that and prison.
And no one brags about his wounds.
If Lyle recovered how about his dying is because things in his stomach?

 

You’re trying to argue against everything without even duly considering the points put to you.

You skip over everything that doesn’t suit your view.

Strange perspective to suggest that anyone is “bragging” about Williams detailed gun shot injuries and their irrefutable impact going forward.

It actually reads AS IF you’re simply not happy with the fact that Williams injuries were significant, properly documented and did in fact impair him going forward.

Enter the painfully thin Ron Lyle “solution” AS IF it provides as the perfect antidote and negator to the legitimate impact and factoring of Williams gun shot injuries.

The bullet remained lodged in Cleve’s body, remember? I assume the knife or what not didn’t remain in Ron?

There’s Ron’s auto bio. Fine. I haven’t read it.

You’re angling as if you have and that it informed you Ron ultimately died due to original damage sustained from the stabbing.

So…as I asked before, how old was Lyle when he was stabbed? You’ve simply described him as being “young”.

You SKIPPED answering that simple question - you instead went straight to Williams and claimed he was shot in his prime - AFTER I already stated Williams was 30 plus (= 31).

I also already highlighted that you SKIPPED referencing Williams seriously declined health due to his original injuries as at the time he was hit by a car when he was 66 yo - not 70 yo as Ron was when he passed.

Dialysis is serious treatment and when you’re at that stage, prognosis for life span is shortened.

So, again, in a nut shell, how old was Lyle when he was stabbed?

What permanent injuries did he sustain (organs in particular) and how did they provably impact on the quality of his health henceforth before he passed from a “sudden” (your descriptor which implies no prior issues) stomach issue at age 70 yo?

“Things in his stomach” is hardly a description of what Ron passed from nor does it detail how those “things” can be linked back to injuries sustained when he was stabbed.

The floor is yours. Please illuminate exactly in relation to the questions put forth.

Otherwise, if you SKIP them again, it’s clear that you’re not fully informed as you imply and that you are putting the cart before the horse in your conclusions.

 

I hope you know who is not back under a new different name, remember Soul Saliva who was a Gomer Pyle Marine.

 

Dialysis is serious treatment but that is not the cause of Williams death because he was killed in car accident not by his kidneys problem.
Again Lyle life was shortened with that and he was stabbed before his prime so he was not healthy enough and never achieved his full prime because that, so what is your point?

And wounds of Lyles liver and other organs never healed unlike Williams again who did not died from injuries but Lyle did and that is what matters.
I again can not stand so much hyping and making excuses for Williams when he was nothing even in his prime unlike Lyle who also had tough battle, never hit his prime because late start and wounds and still no one brags about Lyle and making tons of excuses for him.

 

You SKIPPED the specific questions again. There you go. Due respect, but you literally don’t know what you’re talking about - and have provided nothing to back your claims.

At least that’s one proof of sorts that you have provided.

Thank goodness Stephen Hawking wasn’t hit and killed by a car - that would have you ignoring all else that poor Stephen had to contend with in respect of physical and neurological impairments in constant decline.

Yes, shaving off all the BS, that is analogous to the flawed argument and comparison (to Ron Lyle) that you’re positing re Cleveland Williams.

 

It's about what cause the death.
Both were sick one died from being hit by a car while other one died from wounds so your example is not valid.

 

The analogy is perfectly valid.

And you’ve reinforced the proof that you don’t know what you’re talking about - still evading the answering of simple questions to prove that you’re as fully informed on Lyle’s situation as you imply to be.

You clearly know very little detail re Lyle’s health condition - pre-existing if at all or as at the time of his passing.

 

Lyle entered a Denver hospital Nov. 18 with stomach pains and died eight days later after a stomach abscess became septic, said Sharon Dempsey, his sister.
So he did died from his prison wounds.
Again with the proofs, my point is completely valid.
I know very well what i'm talking about and i just reinforced the evidence to support my side of the story which is that he died from wounds he received at a young age in prison unlike williams who died in a car accident.

 

While I appreciate that you provided something - which you JUST looked up. - can you actually provide a non family source - and the sisters statement does not AT ALL relate it back to the prison injuries - ONLY you made that leap in all bias.

So NO, you still haven’t shown any proof that you know what you’re talking about.

But you still have provided proof that you’re willing to invent in order to fill the gaps in your knowledge with preferred narratives.

Repeat: How old was Lyle when he was stabbed? What ongoing issues did he have leading to the stomach abscess?

Surely if it went back to the original stabbing you would have other examples of impaired health throughout his life to cite for Lyle - as was the case for Williams.

Since you still haven’t answered these simple questions, logic dictates that you don’t even know - and you’re not willing to admit it. perhaps you’ll scurry now to find something - which, if you did find anything of substance - all well and good. But to date, you’ve shown nothing.

Sweet.

 

Your ears are boxed cough cough

 

You really think this is Boxed Ears?

 

Be a damn good stunt!!!!!! His greatest eva!!!!

 

Honestly, I think their's a better chance of me being "Black Herculers".

 

Cough…cough…?

All this coughing reminds me of the hernia checks (shudder) they used to do in primary school (at least that’s what they said it was - ).

I still remember the PA announcements the day before the medical officers were to attend: -

“Boy, please remember to wear your underwear tomorrow!”

This is true, unless we were specifically told otherwise, we tended to go commando at that age.