Virgil Hill vs. Dmitry Bivol

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    No contest , Bivol .. faster, smarter, better combinations ... a decision win ..
     
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  2. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is hillarous. Hill has a granit chin, took bombs from punchers like Hearns, Michalchewski and Tiozzo. Bivol has what, like 10 KOs.
     
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    Hill had a very sneaky hook at times. And Hill was alot stronger physically then people are giving him credit for.
    Hill was a converted southpaw and he never really developed his right hand.
    Bivol couldn't deal with Hills movement as Hill especially when younger had pretty good lateral movement.
    And in the rare times Hill was forced to be the aggressor he was surprisingly very strong (Tate 1,Waters ).
     
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    probably Hill in a boring fight. I think Hill was just a better era.. It would go 12 for sure.
     
  5. The Long Count

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    12 round fight. Extremely tactical probably lack luster. If Hill can control range and Jab all night he wins if Bivol gets close enough to land combos he wins.
    Bivol coming off two excellent wins so it’s hard to pick against him but Hill was consistent and good. I lean Bivol. 60-40
     
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    Joey Maxim beats both.
     
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  7. Mendoza

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    Wait, you and comparing Hill Ko% to Bivols? It's lower and if you look at who Hill fought most of his KO's since 1991 - 2007 were far and few between.

    Again I'm saying he lacks power and Bivol does not. In terms of duality I think Bivol has the better chin, too. Chins are best graded when hit, which Hill really wasn't until later in his career because he was fast and defensive. And he fought better late in his career.

    You are listing fights were Hill lost via to old Hearns. He lost to Michalchewski. This doesn't prove anything, and what punch did Tiozo really land ? A bad fight to prove his durability wouldn't' you say?

    That is what I am saying. Bivol's career isn't over yet.
     
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  8. THE BLADE 2

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    What is this nonense? I went with Hill by decision and not KO.

    You are claiming that Bivol would knock out Hill which is pure sense. Hill had a granit chin (which was tested flush by the likes of Heans, Michalchewski, Tiozzo) and Bivol has like 10 KOs
     
  9. Mendoza

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    You not quoting me correctly I said IF there is a KO, Bivol is more like to score it, and I favor Bivol to win.

    Last said, and correctly I said this:

    You can read my initial reply in this thread.
     
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  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Strange thing to say since Hill had one the weakest long title reigns I can think of.
     
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    I think Hill has the better record with the likes of Maske, Tiozzo and Czyz
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    For a guy with 20+ title fights, his only notable wins are Tate, Tiozzo, and Maske during that time. I don’t think much of Czyz and Maske is the only real standout there.

    Bivol’s resume will surge ahead if he beats Beterbiev.
     
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    Good job this isn't a fantasy match-up between résumés then.
     
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    Not in my opinion. I do not think much of Beterbiev
     
  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    Hill despite not having great power did have some surprising early KO's in his career, he stopped Tiozzo, Kinchen, Camel, in 1st round stoppages.