Gennady Golovkin - Would He Have Hammered The Raging Bull?

Fine. Olympics Golovkin still hammers him.

We happy now?

 

GGG

 

Jake started out as a light heavyweight! He is one of the more over rated old timers, watch him on film.

 

I know, read my other posts... he is overated, but he is still a great fighter...

 

The late Jake LaMotta was only 5'8" tall with just a 67" reach. Those numbers suggest a smaller man, but I'm not saying he’s is welter weight. He is was always close to or at the above the middle weight limit.

But he has a problem being shorter man with a reach of a smaller fighter, as unlike the others he was not that fast or that powerful a puncher! Far from it. That is the truth. I find his skills to be over rated too, in the context of being an all time great and is no accident he lost 19 fights and drew 4 times to some guys you've never seen and or heard of unless your a serious fan!

He was tough but not unbreakable as he was down more time than you think. Vs GGG in a fantasy fight he is up against a taller / longer jabber / and an all time puncher. He isn't going outland GGG, or out punch him that's for certain and his defensive level as evidenced by his record was not great. Would he last the distance vs prime GGG? That to me is the question, more so than would he win. Okay if he fought he six times he could win once, but that’s not what I'm saying!

So yes, he not too small for GGG. Rather he is just a shorter man with limited reach, and a non puncher who wasn't that fast and lacks a world class jab and was no defensive master. That man is not beating GGG, but you are free to pick him.

 

Jake was a lot more Skillful than you are recognizing here, both as a box/fighter and in Defence...

more importantly 19 loses of over a hundred fights is not only acceptable, but also Expected with so many fights that these men took part in. Last these, Top & Noted, opponents were better than most realise, not a resume of no hopers like we see all too often today.

EZ Charles lost 25 fights again in well over a hundreds bouts, is he Not a Great, and defo not overated.

anyway, just my 2 cents.

 

LOL

Dont lump Ezzard into this please.

 

Lamotta would already be bakrupt

 

Yes, but he doesn't have the type of speed and defense needed to beat GGG, nor the punch. Our the skills. He is tough. Okay, so is GGG. But outside of his toughness which wan't tested vs elite puncher's like GGG, he doest not bring enough. He is a short middle with a t-rex like reach and not likely to out box GGG or out hit him with LaMotta's power level. Things like height and reach matter...even at middle weight. There hasn't been a really good middle with Lamotta's dimensions in 30 years! It's even longer than that.

Granted some of those results 19 losses and 4 draws are because he fought so often, they just happen often too often even for a guy who fought as much as Jake, and some to them are vs. who? No need to drill down here.

Hopefully you get me point see my point is logically sound. Some of the very pro Jake or anti GGG fans will avoid replying to the points & gone over.

Charles has fine skills and really went south after a while for many fighters at heavyweight. But in his prime he was excellent at light heavy and pretty good at heavyweight! So interjecting Charles is the conversion won't help LaMotta save face.

 

So you are saying he would need to fight a lot?

I'm out for the thanksgiving break. I plan on will submiting more articles later including a juicy Greb one on and my all time tired middleweights! ( maybe ) at a later date.

 

My first thought was Golovkin by decision , but there's this gnawing doubt about what happens after GGG throws his load and Jake is still standing when the bell rings for round 13, 14, and last round. LaMotta did fight the far, far better competition so your analysis of a close fight is spot on.

 

LaMotta ballooned after fights because he was an undisciplined crazy man. GGG has never been out of shape but we've never seen him in a 15 round bout. LaMotta fought much better competition. But GGG had more fights if you include his 350 amateur bouts during which he beat Bute, Andy Lee, Dirrell, and Koborov.

Lots to think about here, including the fact that their style are different.

I'd say it's 50/50.

 

Tough call. Lamotta was a brutal body puncher. better resume (Holman Williams, Satrerfield, Cerdan, Sugar Ray)
Both have granite Chins. GGG bigger puncher. Better technique.
Honestly Lamotta doesn’t really do it for me on film. I think it’s the very wide open stance. Obviously he was handful to deal with but ggg just looks better on film to me. But Jake did get results. I would pick GGG but just my opinion. Good fight

 

I said Triple G, beats Jake, I was merely responding to what you said about his Skill Level, Jake was a great fighter as Were Thousands of them... GGG too Big, Strong and also a great fighter.