On this day in 1962, Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali) stopped Archie Moore.

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  1. Tockah

    Tockah Ingo's Bingo Full Member

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    this has me in stitches, I heard @Richard M Murrieta trained Tire Iron Jones!

    P.s its all love Rich, you are a treasure
     
  2. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I am more than well expressed and originally so.

    It is pure conceit divorced from reality to claim one is being copied when they haven’t been.

    I mean, god forbid.

    I actually highlighted, some time back on multiple occasions, this one’s notable penchant for copying and repeating back.

    Last post I more or less commented “nothing new to add” - then, among several other examples in the one post, that is repeated back to me while falsely claiming that I copy. You’d have to read such false claims and self contradictions to believe them - and I just did.

    Yes, let’s blame Wikipedia. I mean, why properly read what one has linked themselves? This isn’t the first time the contents of one’s own links contradicted one’s own poor interpretation - and that poor interpretation just happened to fit their presupposed conclusion.

    This is not a chorus of a one - there have been others but one has falsely claimed foul treatment - others again simply don’t bother with or cease replying to this one - but the one is too self wrapped up to notice. There is also a contingent that I am personally aware of who see it as I do.

    The false “pity poor me” act is being ramped up - and that’s why, in the very obvious throes of same, one claims in all projection that the other party will cry likewise - have I?

    No, not at all, I deal in kind rather than falsely cry to or about the mods. Such a bore….
     
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  3. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    That he is Tock. Has great knowledge but most importantly, a top shelf guy!
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I kid @Richard M Murrieta about his age but he’s absolute gold.
     
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  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Ha Ha Buddy, Thanks. You are a treasure as well too.
     
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  6. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Thanks Buddy, you are Gold as well.
     
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  7. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Aw Shucks, You gave away my secrets. Ha Ha.
     
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  8. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I will have to autograph my pictures, Lol.
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I want my own framed pic, autographed and personalised - “To dear Pug, keep punching, all my best, Rich, the man, the myth, the legend.” :)
     
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  10. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Again a bunch of unsupported generalities, & I have also repeatedly described what has been copied: but part of what I am referring to is automatically deploying the same language not just of others, but that has been used by the writer before-without any given rationale, rhyme or reason.
    When something like self-esteem is attacked apropos of precisely nothing, we have to wonder whether the author is projecting their own problems.
    Note I do not act in (un)kind & assume a raft of laughable pathologies & labeling about not just the argument but the person...
    But no other credible explanation presents itself.

    Likewise when there is no "pity poor me" remotely suggested.
    Nor is the claim of me not noticing supposed contrary opinions. Sucking up notwithstanding.
    Anyone here for a while including the irrational accuser has accusations of being inaccurate-& claims of unseen support are very dubious---> but worse is a paranoid assumption that I made *any* false or uncharitable claims to the moderator.
    In fact I had no part in a banning due to absolutely *vicious* personal attacks that got the complainant banned...
    But very misleading is acting like "I am stoic & do not make complaints"...
    When besides their comments & vulnerabilities, they have nothing credible to whine about.

    About the single, solitary specific argument even alluded to or mentioned-it is telling.
    At best there is nothing disingenuous, but a basic, repeated & olive-branch offering explanation is somehow still not understood.
    I never "blamed" Wikipedia.
    I was incorrectly told by a never admit my errors type-poster that Wikipedia supported only a specific birth date.
    Then I umimpeachably proved that Moore's page listed both 1913 & 1916 in different places.
    (And noticed that a couple links provided actually did not support 1916 as claimed but 1917)...

    That should have had good intent & complete integrity to the truth very clear.
    Nobody was "blamed" that the second date was missed, I just pointed out discovering it.
    Also conveniently ignored was that the 1913 citation went to the U.K. paper's obituary-that I had coincidentally linked in an earlier post when found elsewhere...
    That did not at all support the 1916 claim!

    One must have the intrinsic conscience & goodwill to notice good faith efforts & being rigorously fair.
    And the integrity to respond to specifics like this one-at least if it was presented as evidence for a later date-& admit the source material one in part based a claim upon does NOT support that date, & claim, at all.

    Everyone can once again SEE this is a fact.
    In the very first of 21 references listed.
    [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Moore[/url]
     
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  11. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    WOW ! Thanks buddy, I will make sure to send you the autographed picture. Ha Ha.
     
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  12. Saintpat

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    Sonny Liston once signed an autograph for @Richard M Murrieta inscribed: “To the only person in boxing older than me.”

    Of course he was signing a citation for public intoxication that Rich handed him during his stint at a police officer … and Sonny then stuffed him in a dumpster.
     
  13. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    How did you guess buddy? Ha Ha.
     
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  14. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That reminds me-where is our legitimately last known as 96, 6' 7" & proportionately excellent poster?
     
  15. mr. magoo

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    I just checked and despite his age, Moore was actually still winning some big fights around then
     
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