Kick Someone Out of this Top Heavyweight ATG list.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by turbotime, Nov 30, 2022.

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  1. Holyfield

    13.2%
  2. Lennox

    2.5%
  3. Holmes

    4.4%
  4. Louis

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Wlad

    22.6%
  6. Marciano

    11.3%
  7. Johnson

    27.7%
  8. Frazier

    8.2%
  9. Tyson

    6.3%
  10. Foreman

    3.8%
  1. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Riddick Bowe
    Mike Tyson
    George Foreman
    Larry Holmes
    Moore
    Douglas
    Mercer
    Rahman
    Ruiz

    4 time HW champion, undisputed while not even mentioning his cruiserweight career.
    Be hard pressed to find 5 other HWs with a better resume or achievements.
     
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  2. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Does Usyk beat Wlad?
     
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    Most champions don’t get to avenge their losses. That mostly comes down to good luck and timing. Sanders made the prospect of a rematch impossible after getting stripped his WBO title for refusing to fight his mandatory opponent and then taking several months off before competing for the vacant WBC title.
     
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    2nd best Cruiser ever, to Usyk, but Holyfields heavyweight career was 27-10.
    Some good wins. PEDs. Overrated in heavy. Overall, pretty good but not at heavy, no.
     
  5. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    I don't care about his losses when he was past his prime, he has the greatest resume in modern HW boxing outside of Ali with the achievements to back it up. Again, like I've seen before, wins over Riddick Bowe, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson twice, George Foreman, Michael Moore, Buster Douglas, Ray Mercer, Hasim Rahman and John Ruiz. He's defeated over 19 former champions in his decorated career, Former undisputed HW champion, former IBF and WBA Champion, another tenure as the WBA and IBF champion as well as a tenure as WBA champion making him the only 4 time Heavyweight champion in history. Could of been 5 time HW champion but they robbed him in the Valuev fight. A bonafide HW ATG, you must be smoking crack if you don't think Holyfield was a great HW.
     
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    I would think so.
     
  8. drenlou

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    Probably Marciano.
     
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    Holyfield was so much better than Wlad, I think if he bulked up naturally like Usyk, he would still beat him.

    Well, if Holyfield bulked up naturally like Usyk, they would be about the same size - why could Usyk beat Wlad, and Evander couldn't?
     
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    Jack Johnson
     
  11. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    How is it in any way the greatest accomplishment in HW history?
     
  12. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Terrible longevity, a blatant gift win in his comeback reign. He's a very relevant choice in discussions like these.
     
  13. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    If Evander bulked up naturally he'd be James Toney. His bulking up via illegal PEDs was a clear component of his success at HW.

    He wouldn't be the same size as Usyk, because he's the smaller man by around ten pounds and a couple inches in height. As for why Usyk could beat Wlad but Evander couldn't how about you work that one out yourself? Hint, take a look at how both men fight and who they had success and failure against and derive your conclusions from there.
     
  14. Komaster

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    The Wlad that fought Sanders would get schooled by Usyk. Bulked up Usyk vs Pulev-era Wlad? Decent fight if well reffed. I think Usyk would be too tricky.
     
  15. It's Ovah

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    I'd love to have seen that fight. There were a few times in both men's careers where they looked untouchable.
     
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