The Most Overrated British Fighter?

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  1. Fergy

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    Most over rated British boxer?

    And its not Lennox Lewis!!
    IMO.
     
  2. Dynamicpuncher

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    In modern times i thought Billy Joe Saunders was pretty overrated, people went crazy after he beat Lemieux claiming he was some master boxer. Who would have a good chance vs Golovkin or Canelo, and whilst Saunders did have skills i never thought he was "that good".

    As for all time as much i hate to say it because i like him alot and may he RIP, but Henry Cooper has to up there. He certainly lived off that left hook he dropped Ali with, although i can understand why people hyped him up because it was frigging Ali after all.
     
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    Yer I know what your saying.
    In retrospect, what Cooper did, to the iron chinned Ali, was pretty damn good.
    But that was his best kd, not ko but kd.
    So yes, he does get overrated but he still has that special place in Brits hearts.
     
  4. William Walker

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    Even though Bugner is an American-Hungarian-Australian-British-French-Guatemalan-Japanese citizen, I do think he's pretty overrated.
     
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    He's all the colors of the rainbow.
     
  6. William Walker

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    Lol exactly.
     
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  7. Greg Price99

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    For the casuals it's likely to be a high profile HW. Dynamic Puncher's suggestion of Henry Cooper seems a sound one to me, lovely bloke as he was.

    I rank Jack Kid Berg lower than other knowledgeable/hardcore fans. His career record outside of the year 1930 is very modest, imo.

    Admittedly, 1930 was a great year for him, but even still a top 5 British p4p all time ranking (I'm pretty sure I've seen him ranked as such) is presumably almost entirely based on - 1) His win over Canzoneri. As great as Canzoneri is, I consider - A) Canzoneri did lose a good few & in particular it wasn't unusual for him to split series with non-ATG fighters; and B) Canzoneri twice avenged this defeat to take a series win over Berg; and 2) His 2 wins over Kid Chocolate - an SD & an MD over a fighter he outweighed by 9.25 & 6.25lbs respectively. 2 close wins by a natural LW over a natural FW arguably speaks more for KC than JKB.

    1930 wins over Billy Petrolle & Joe Glick x 2 are to be respected too, though Glick wasn't exactly a stranger to being beaten either.

    Post his 2nd win over Kid Chocolate in 1932, a month after his 23rd birthday, JKB competed at a modest level with mixed results.

    An all time British great, no question, and I'm not hating, just stating I seem to rank lower than some (most?) others.
     
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    Calzaghe. I remember his run... forgettable it was.

    Wright, Taylor, RJJ, Tarver and more... all never happened... due to Joe's fear of flying (which he stated in his book, but clearly "got over" when it came cashing out. Funny how that works). His best performance came across an overrated yank who got shown up by an ancient Roy.
     
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    Billy got lazy fter beating Andy Lee. All of a sudden he kept the WBO belt hostage. This man should've been much better, even enough to possibly defeat Canelo. Some athletes lose their hunger once they make it up the mountain.
     
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    Let me simplify this for those at home.... He's a human :D
     
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    I think the pro game is just a cash out to top ammy guys like Billy.
     
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    Frampton
     
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    *Scott Quigg
     
  14. Saintpat

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    Wait til you find out about Jake LaMotta.

    Jake was the greatest welterweight who ever lived … as long as he could come in at 165 against natural welterweights who are coming in at 150 with their clothes on, soaking wet.
     
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  15. Greg Price99

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    I agree LaMotta is overrated. I didnt mention him in this thread, because he wasnt British.
     
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