Who's The Worst Possible Match Up, For Vitali Klitschko?

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  1. McGrain

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  2. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holmes was one of the first names that popped into my head. When I picture them in the ring it looks really bad for Vitali. Holmes would be so dominant that either the ref stops it or the corner throws in the towel, with Vitali in a horrible state.
     
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  3. McGrain

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    I just think he would pop pop pop his way to a decision and I think Vitali didn't hit with the power of his size. I can't see him turning it with a punch. I think Holmes would outland him clearly and throughout...I don't really see it like you, but I will say we've no clue how it might go over 15. So yeah.
     
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  4. NoNeck

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    You’re wrong, bud. Btw he absolutely trashed three former cruiser champs in Gomez, Adamek, and Orlin Norris. It’s so strange how they couldn’t figure him out. Nevermind what happened to Hide.
     
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  5. Levook

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    Vitali had a good chin and would probably last the distance with harder punchers than Holmes, but there's something about the styles that makes me feel he'd beat Vitali up really badly, same with Liston vs Vitali and vs Louis, I guess it's the heavy face busting jabs they threw.

    The LHWs I'm thinking of would have no problems with any of the guys you mentioned.
     
  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah Vitali had a high KO ratio i believe ? But actually watching his fights regarding eye test, his power definitely didn't match up to his high KO ratio. It was always an accumulation of punishment, rather than any one punch being the game changer.
     
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    Holmes could really take a punch and his recovery rate is one of his greatest assets.

    I see him and Vitali in a great matchup, but have VK winning by UD. To tall and to much volume from VK, Holmes able to take the hits but looking like roadkill by the 12th.

    Holmes is tough enough to have VK injure out or get cut.

    Great match, but VK ain't losing this the majority of the time.
     
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  8. Big Red

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    Yeah Ali had losses but of course I am picking prime Ali. Ali is going to out point Vitali with his fast hands and reach imo. And Vitali dose not have the power to knock him out. Would not be a blow out for Ali though imo. Vitali is a difficult matchup.
     
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  9. mcvey

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    The Ring magazines 2000 December edition had an article pitting Vitali against the then current top ten and predicting the outcome .
    No1 Chris Byrd =Vitali by U dec
    No2John Ruiz=Vitali within 6 rds
    No3 James Toney= Vitali by close dec
    No4 Hasim Rahman=Rahman on cuts late
    No5 Monte Barrett=Vitali by ko in 10rds or less
    No6 Andrew Golota=Vitali by mid rds surrender or dsq
    No7 Fres Oquendo=Vitali by ko after 8rds
    No8 Lamon Brewster-Brewster by dec
    No 9 Jameel McCline=Vitali by U dec
    No10 Joe Messi =Vitali ko 8rds
     
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  10. Fergy

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    That's an interesting list. So looks like they thought Vit was more or less unbeateble.
     
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  11. Mendoza

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    In almost all cases Vitali knocked his man out faster then the field of the men who faced his opponents before! He also is the only man to stop Larry Donald, Kirk Johnson, and Vaugh Bean. Men who fought plenty of punchers and Johnson was stopped early. And Ross Purity was not as easy man to stop.

    Sometimes he did not blow guy away early because he is a boxer first, and a puncher second. Before his back and shoulder injuries Universam said he punched harder than Wlad! Other famous opponents compared his power with Mike Tyson. Williams said he was more consistent with his power the Tyson! Briggs who paid the toll by going the distance in a fight that should have been stopped said he hits harder than Foremen.

    His KO percentage of 87.23% matches up well and was not dulled by old age.
     
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  12. Mendoza

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    Which styles and how do you figure that Liston and Louis do that think? Louis had lot of problems vs jabbers and Liston was cut and busted up on more that one occasion.

    Holmes I agree is a tough match but even he had trouble with good boxers and good right hands, and Vitali happen to have both and he is unlike any opponent Holmes every faced in the ring. I think he would be then best boxer he ever fought and the scorecards would agree with me.
     
  13. Dynamicpuncher

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    Aaron Pryor had 35 stoppages in 39 victories, looking at those stats you'd think he was a one punch KO artist. But he wasn't and the same applies for Vitali Klitschko. He was a volume puncher that wore his opponents down, he hit Briggs with everything but the kitchen sink but never stopped him. Lewis stopped a prime Briggs in only 5 rounds, he hit Corrie Sanders with 230 punches in 8 rounds but never got him off his feet, fighters like Rahman floored Sanders and stopped him in 7 rounds, Nate Tubbs did it in 2 rounds.

    The fighters you mentioned like Donald were old and it took Vitali 10 rounds, which again falls in line with what i said regarding "volume puncher who wears opponents down, Kirk Johnson come into the fight looking a beached whale, in the same vein as when Witherspoon turned up vs Bonecrusher Smith 2nd time. Vaugh Bean again another fighter past his best it still took Vitali 11 rounds again, which is what i described early as "volume puncher who wears his opponents down"

    Danny Williams was almost stopped in the 1st round by a completely shot Mike Tyson, until Tyson tore a ligament in his left knee. It took Vitali 8 rounds to finish off Williams, a prime Tyson would of finished of Williams in 1 or 2 rounds at the max. Other fighters have also stopped Williams earlier than Vitali did. Harrison did it in 3 rounds 2 years after Vitali fought him, Samil did it in 6 rounds 3 years before Vitali did.

    Vitali is not some one punch KO artist despite his high KO ratio, stats can be misleading and they are in this case.
     
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    You are likely right about the outcome.
    But Vitali had a much longer reach than Holmes.
    Especially considering real "reach:, shoulder to fist, his was one of the longest...
    Not wingspan, which also measures distance across chest + hands.
     
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  15. NoNeck

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    There's no way that's from Dec 2000. Toney didn't even fight at heavyweight until 2003. That reads more like 2005 or 2006.