Jim Corbett v Harry Greb 20rds?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Jim Corbett v Harry Greb 20rds prime for prime.

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    Greb beat 26 men over 180lbs.
    Corbett beat 3
    Greb beat men such as
    Brennan,[ 194lbs for one of their fights ,]several times
    Miske 197lbs
    Renault 182 &187lbs
    Weinert 186lbs
    Madden 184lbs
    Rojas 195lbs
    Greb gave 175lbs , 49 fight Gene Tunney 12 lbs and beat him up.
    He is the more proven fighter against the big men imo.

    I think he beats Corbett and anyone Corbett ever beat, all 11 of them .
     
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  2. BCS8

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    Corbett was deeply unimpressive to me on film especially when contrasted to his reputation. Greb on the other hand beat guys with top flight records that actually look good on film. So, I will take Greb.
     
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  3. Fergy

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    Greb, maybe on points.
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I will start with the obvious disclaimer, that we don't have a very clear idea of what either man looks like from ringside, and what we do have doubtless doesn't show us everything they could do.

    I suspect that most people will pick Greb, and that is in no way a bad call.

    Corbett is very much within Greb's prey size range, and he might outmatch him in areas where Corbett was accustomed to having the advantage, such as speed or cleverness.

    However we shouldn't close our minds to the idea of Corbett winning with the right fight plan.
     
  5. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Incredible. Was there ever anybody quite as good as this guy
     
  6. mcvey

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    What would be the right fight plan for Corbett to beat Greb?
    Could he outbox him?
    Overpower him?
    Out last him?
    Outspeed him?
    Which would be IYO his best option?

    Who did Corbett beat that Greb wouldn't?

    Greb beat full sized class heavies like Brennan and Miske
    Clever men like Gibbons, Weinert,Levinsky,Loughran.

    A 49 fight 175lbs Tunney.
    Would Corbett?
     
  7. janitor

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    If he asked my advice, then I would direct him to the Tunney series.

    I would suggest to him, that he should forget out boxing Greb, and go for a focused body attack.

    That seems to be the way to fight Greb, if you are a classic boxer.

    Just forget everything that you thought you knew, and turn tiger on him!
     
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  8. mcvey

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    The Tunney series swung in Gene's favour as Greb aged yes?
    Serious questions
    Is there any record of Corbett winning a fight with a focused body attack?
    Is there any record of Corbett flooring anyone with a body punch?
     
  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Mm. I don’t think you can really analyse these kind of fights reliably without just making broad statements and comparing resumes. it lacks substance without seeing Greb fight I can’t tell you if I see something Corbett does specifically that would give him the edge. Without film how can you talk strategy with any certainty?
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You can't all you can do is make your best guess.
     
  11. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    What we do know with certainty is Corbett knew how to dress better.
     
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  12. janitor

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    Yes, but there might have been other issues.
    Please don't trouble me with any other kind.
    No, but like Tunney he was adaptable, and might well reach the same conclusions.
     
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  13. he grant

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    Look Corbett was a magnificent athlete but watching him on film is almost painful ... he was a transitionary figure in a very preliminary period of the sport .. from 1890 to 1900 it really seemed like a different game that morphed quickly in the 20th Century ... Greb in addition to being not that much smaller fought so many more fights and had so much more ring experience against quality opposition that the comparison is likely to result in a massacre ...
     
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