Yes. Same goes for Loma. AB is a terrible man. A straight up destroyer. H2H nightmare for all ATG's at LHW. But so few fights keeps him from being the best ever at LHW. But, I can see why one can argue on his behalf.
Beterbiev/Bivol is the fight. By the way, like your avatar. The best I ever seen her was in the movie Moonlight. Man she looked good.
He may crack top 10 depending on if he beats Bivol but i think that's about it. Also beating Bivol is a HUGE if and i actually have Bivol winning that fight
If he grabs all 4 belts (never done before at 175lbs) then he's an ATG contender at 175lbs. I personally think he is good enough to grab a belt at CW also. His power can definately carry up.
Which 9 other 175lbs fighters throughout history would rank above him? How many were unified champions? Resume depth? Etc Beterbiev will go down as having quality rather than quantity on his resume. Remember, Usyk has no ATGs on his CW record either but people rank him above Holyfield so we should apply the same logic with Beterbiev if he wins all 4 belts too.
I think he can do it. CW looks pretty weak to be honest. Maybe Okolie the Octopus can KO Beterbiev due to the big size difference but he is the only one I can see doing it personally (at a stretch).
Holyfield himself didn't have ATG opponents at cruiser apart from Qawi. Compared to cruiserweight light-heavy is miles apart. Guys like Charles, Moore, Foster, Spinks, Langford, Bivins, Roy Jones, it's just no comparison. Also some of these guys fought in an era where there was only one title, no multiple title bull****. What's Bievs best win, Gvozdyk? A Guy with 17 fights who won the title from 40 year old Stevenson. If he beats Bivol he should receive massive credit which should help him get into top 10 imo Edit: Then again, some people may argue against it because light-heavyweight is so deep it's not even funny
Harry Greb Tommy Loughran Archie Moore Ezzard Charles Saad Muhammed Gene Tunney Michael Spinks Qawi Harold Johnson Billy Conn Jimmy Bivins Bob Foster Victor Galindez Eddie MM And there are several more you could rank above him. Also your last sentence is everything wrong with world forum.
Yea he can definitely pick up a belt or two. Would be interesting to see if his power carries over in the same fashion as he did at light-heavy
Why is it wrong? I'm applying the same metric to both fighters. Older fighters are over rated massively on here. Beterbiev would run through 90% of people on your list.
No he wouldn't have a huge LDBC fanbase. Beterbiev is a soft spoken and extremely manly family man. LDBC usually supports sissies who are "slick" and weasel out in the ring. Beterbiev doesn't have enough tattoos, wear enough chains or spend enough time in the club for them.
If he fights Bivol and beats him then he’s proved himself as the best of the current crop. Not much else he can do at LHW but he needs to achieve this at the very least. Without Bivol on his resume he’ll remain a generational beast, but not one of the elite ATG Top 10. It’s a shame he never got to have a go at prime Kovalev and Ward. Having those two on his list of victims would have secured his Top 10, no doubt. But that’s life.
