Tyson Luke Fury vs. Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk

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Gypsy King or The Cat?

Poll closed May 18, 2024.
  1. Fury on points

    24.5%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    19.1%
  3. Draw

    3.1%
  4. Usyk on points

    43.3%
  5. Usyk by stoppage

    10.0%
  1. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What no way does Fury fight Usyk,the haters on here have multiple threads saying Fury is scared and running away ! Fury will show Usyk what it’s like to fight a big career Heavyweight and one who knows how to use every bit of his size and attributes to his benefit and if not a points win maybe a late stoppage. I’m a Fury fan but may the best man win without controversy and also this will be the best fighter either has faced as a pro with all the trinkets on the line. For the winner the Undisputed title as well as the first 4 belt holder in Heavyweight history ( actually 5 but IBO not so relevant) with also the Ring belt and Lineal title on the line .
     
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  2. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’m going with Fury on points. I think Usyk can beat every heavyweight but him. At the same time I wouldn’t be shocked if Usyk won.
     
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  3. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Sometimes a fella's just gotta be movin' on Full Member

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    It's a 50-50 fight, but I'm leaning toward Usyk. I'll readily admit that part of that is because he's my favorite fighter right now though, so maybe I should say "I want Usyk to win." But even putting that aside, in general I think he possesses the skillset to hand Fury his first loss. Even if he doesn't win, I still see him making Fury work for that W. That's not to knock on Fury at all though. The two of them are the current best heavyweights by miles, and that will still be true regardless of who walks away the first undisputed champ in over twenty damn years. It ain't gonna be an easy night for either man is all I'm saying.

    That being said, I really don't see a stoppage for either one, barring a TKO. Neither one is really known for possessing incredible knockout power. On top of that, Usyk has never hit the canvas as a professional, and while Fury has, he's also shown incredible recovery skills. I could see a knockdown, and there's always the possibility of a TKO, but a full blown KO? Nah, I wouldn't count on it.
     
  4. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    @CST80
    You are a bigger fan of AU than his own wife. :lol:
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    This fight is hard to call for various reasons. Fury only fought Wilder in his prime as was knocked down a total of four times. That is pretty much it for ranked contenders in their prime for Fury! But Usyk is getting up there in age and might be slipping soon.

    Fury has a size edge for sure, but I find him rather easy to hit and dirty on occasions! What do you mean by dirty? Well -- he lost five points by the referee in five separate fights. Not an accident!. And he had a failed PED test. I suspect that he cheats but has only been caught with a failed test once.

    Getting back to Usky he has great stamina and does not fall into a clinch. So Fury will have to work harder than he even did before. A difficult fight to call due to Usyk age and Fury being so untested vs Prime ring magazine contenders!

    In the end I favor Usyk to win! He not that small being 6'3" tall and having enough reach to fight Fury al least he not gimped like an old man in Chisora was nor is he fat and slow like Whyte, but it is no easy fight! The southpaw style combined with Usky sightly quicker hands will win the day...I think. Chin wise Usky is pretty tested his defense is rather good.
     
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  6. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Oleksandr Will surprise A LOT of people in this one. I got Usyk by comfortable UD. Don’t be surprised if Fury gets frustrated and starts trying every trick in the book to utilize his size. Holding and leaning, maybe a few push downs, holding and punching etc and gets a DQ. He’ll have never been outboxed to the degree Usyk will do to him. He’ll try everything to keep that belt.
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury is going to do a little twirl centre ring then punch Usyk in the face

    Then he'll sing afterwards

    Fury will surprise people with how easy he makes it
     
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  8. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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  9. Komaster

    Komaster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk win declared a draw
     
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  10. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    Fury is always better than you think he's going to be
    and Usyk can't hurt a HW (even Joshua who has no recovery plan).
    Fury will have no fear going in and will maul him like a polar bear.
    Fury wins undisputed, goes on a victory tour (that might include Joshua and Usyk but not Wilder - why?)
    And retires rich and happy.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Honestly this seems likeliest IMO.

    Really a lot of parallels to Canelo vs. Bivol, when you think about it. Usyk, like Bivol, is too blatantly skilled for the judges to not at least throw a few plausible deniability rounds to keep their scores credible. By the same token Fury, like Canelo, is too big a star for them not to swing anything close for reasons of industry politics (to preserve their spot as someone the powers that be want to call on for big events).

    Barring a truly generational display of dominance a`la Calzaghe-Lacy or something, or Usyk literally scoring a knockdown each round with twelve consecutive 10-8's (or, naturally, a stoppage in either direction), it'll wind up in the draw, 115-113, split-majority neighborhood regardless of what happens between the bells. I just hope when the dust settles the maths land in the right guy's favor.
     
  12. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Usyk KO fury is cray cray talk. I have the Ukrainian by a points decision, but really I'd need to see whot is 1) the ref and 2)
    the judges, because as @IntentionalButt has stated quite eloquently, a win for AU will be a draw...unless there are fair judges.
    Since it will be in Saudi, maybe was can get three Wise Men or at least a couple Mullahs to judge it then Praise Allah we
    get a fair decision.
     
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  13. BrokerNYC

    BrokerNYC Dubai Full Member

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    Firstly both Fury and Usyk have great "Doctors" so I'm assuming will be at their peak levels on the night (wink wink)

    Fury will win and win easily too I feel Fury will lean on Usyk and slow him down by ripping his body and leaning on him. It won't be pretty to watch and Fury will probably lose some points but will man handle Usyk, burn his back with the ropes, elbow his collar bone and really slow him down. I definitely see Fury stopping Usyk.

    My prediction for the fight is - Usyk will complain about low blows that are no where near his groin area, like he does in all his tough fights

    Fury by Stoppage

    100% after the fight people will be saying
    "Usyk was to small"
    "Didn't train well for Fury because his country is at war"
    or my favourite taken from the AJ & Vlad fight
    "The Usyk that fought AJ would have beat Fury"
     
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  14. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Usyk decision in a boring, tactical fight that Fury will do everything in his power to spoil.
     
  15. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury's best chance is to assault the body. Post-Wilder 2, Fury has considerably improved his inside game and clinch game. Fury is the better operator at close range, and he looks to have pivoted away from the 2015 jab and move slickster style that schooled Wlad, I highly doubt he ever returns to that style.

    Usyk's best chance is to stay in mid-range and look to pick Fury off with quick shots, darting in and out of range, avoiding lengthy combinations to avoid being countered. Usyk's advantage over Fury is hand-speed.

    Ultimately how I believe the fight will play out is: Usyk doesn't have the raw punch power to deter Fury from walking him down and taking a punch to land his own hooks to Usyk's body. Through a combination of body punching and close-range grappling, Fury will wear Usyk down and stop him late.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Usyk doesn't get KD'd and survives all 12 rounds, he has a good chin. But my official prediction is Fury TKO 10.