Good fighters who never got a World title shot?

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  1. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I stand corrected, when I said Holman Williams was 2nd highest fighter on my p4p list to never receive a title shot, Bivins is, pretty sure Williams would be 3rd.

    Lloyd Marshall another fine figher
     
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  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pete Rademacher has entered the chat.
     
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  3. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    Great list, I have to investigate this lot!
     
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    Freddy Benson. Active Member Full Member

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    Sadly far too many to mention. Names that immediately spring to mind:

    Peter Jackson,
    Harry Wills,
    Murderers Row.
    Patrick "Packey" McFarland.
     
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  5. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    McFarland got a shot vs Welsh. By all accounts he was robbed by the official draw verdict.
    I agree with your other suggestions. The murders row may represent the 4 x boxers I rank highest who never got a world title shot.
     
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  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    Jimmy Bivins was the Undisputed duration champion.
     
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  7. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe , bot those guys could have beaten 99% plus of the profs in that era
     
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  8. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Harold Johnson never getting a shot at the HW title is shocking to me and hasn’t been mentioned. He beat multiple number ones over the years
     
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  9. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Remember Rademacher ?
     
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  10. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you got a note pad? damn near any contender from the world's greatest boxing nations...

    the BUSINESS of Boxing CAN'T and Didn't allow all great fighters the chance!!!

    Now, in their, the Business Owners, defence, it is impossible to have competitions that all could have possibly competed in...

    Now,
    in their prosecution, they are Gulity of Much Corruption, Exclusion, Theft, Cheating and Exploitation.

    the BUSINESS of Boxing, has given us relatively few greats...

    the SPORT of Boxing, has given us Thousands of Great Fighters.
     
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  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes I remember him, he was a professional fighter when he fought Patterson.

    Neither Savon or Stevenson turned pro so any possibility of pro matches without a pro licence were dead in the water.
     
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  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    This is based on what exactly?
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Savon's career was;
    1985-2000 Some of the ranked pro fighters during that time slot include;
    M Spinks
    Moorer
    Dokes
    Bowe
    Ibeabuchi
    Tua
    Lewis
    Byrd
    Tubbs
    Berbick
    Tucker
    Ruddock
    Tyson
    Holyfield
    Weaver
    Coetzee
    Holmes
    Page
    Williams
    Witherspoon
    V Klitschko
    Since you state Savon would beat 99+%
    Which single fighter,which 1% would beat Savon not be able to beat?
    Stevenson's was 1968 -1986 Ranked pro heavies during this period included;
    Frazier
    Ali
    Ellis
    Quarry
    Foreman
    Bugner
    Coetzee
    Thomas
    Weaver
    Douglas
    Williams
    Bruno
    Tubbs
    Shavers
    Holmes
    Tate
    Liston
    Norton
    Tucker
    Young
    Lyle
    Cooney
    Witherspoon
    Page
    Berbick
    Again which 1%, which individual boxer would Stevenson not defeat out of those I listed?
     
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  14. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Ben Foord
    Alberto Mercado
     
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  15. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    Good points mate!

    This is what I was discussing in a thread I did about the many weight divisions. Some replies pointed out some UK fighters would have ripped it up if there had been "in-between" divisions then as many had to boil down to a lower weight or fight heavier guys. In one sense more titles and divisions makes it more likely for a good fighter to win a title and get a decent pay day. On the other hand the titles are valued less.