P4P (ALL TIME) how would you rank Saul Alvarez?

Proven PED cheats shouldn't rank. A shame, as RJJ, Canelo and many others are very gifted.

Without PEDs, top 100. Canelo has far too many question marks and questionable results in his 10 best wins - more so than any fighter of the last 30 years.

 

As kiwi_boxer said, he's a proven drug cheat and the pattern of his judges results suggests heavy pushing from below. I have him 1-2 against Golovkin and people suggest that he maybe should have lost other fights too. It becomes hard therefore to rank him in the higher half of the top 50. I could see a case even with the PEDs etc for a top 100 ranking. His resume on face value is very good and he looks very good to the eye test too.

 

Nothing special, probably top 100

 

I don't know boxing history that well, but I believe there was at least 100 boxers who are better than that privileged Canelo.

 

His title achievements are pretty insane objectively, 4 div champ, 3 div unified (one of only two to do this), 1 div undisputed. But then you look at the people he has beat in earnest and his career becomes way, way less impressive. Top 100, purely on the benefit of the doubt that he deserved GGG 2+his title stats.

 

His career isnt over yet, so its hard to say.

 

When it's all said and done he has a fantastic CV even now prior to retirement and accomplished a hell of lot in the sport. Time will look back upon him favourably.

 

Looks like Bivol is gonna snatch the remnants of his Saul at 168.

 

Probably not top 100. I started watching boxing after Pacquiao vs Cotto and I could probably name 15 boxers who rank higher since then, not to mention all time.

 

Top 100

Ped cheater

 

At middle weight? Somewhere is the top 30 of all time.

 

About top 40 I think.

 

As @kiwi_boxer and @BCS8 I'd say a person with so many controversies (PEDs and some of the most obviously corrupted judges), he doesn't deserve that much. And since this is the absurd P4P ranking, I don't even see him in top 100. He is otherwise a very good boxer, but not that good to be included in something like all time P4P top 100.

 

Fair comment.