GGG vs James Toney at 160.

Nunn, the guy with 5 defences of the IBF strap at MW who lost to 25-17 Steve Little?
McCallum, the guy with a whole 3 defences of the WBA strap?

Golovkin knocked Jacobs down and threw 879 punches in #2 against Canelo. How TF is that not lifting the pace? That's almost as busy as Calzaghe, except that Golovkin hits with 2x the power of Calslappy.

Yeah Toney really committed himself after Nunn gassed calamitously after beating the crap out of Toney for most of the fight

There's no evidence to suggest that Nunn or McCallum would see the final bell against 22 title defences, 80% ko ratio GGG.

 

Title defences don't mean jack and you know it, Nunn and McCallum P4P and historically rate much higher than anyone Golovkin beat by far. The best win Golovkin had is a tactical jab-fest vs Daniel Jacobs in a close fight, who doesn't rate anywhere close to a prime Michael Nunn or Mike McCallum.

Toney got beat up for most of the fight vs Nunn ? False statement. Toney got outboxed early on, but came on in the 2nd half of the fight, and had won the previous 3 or 4 rounds in a row prior to KO. Remind me again when did Golovkin KO anyone on the level of a prime Michael Nunn ?

 

He beat Canleo really twice if you being honest, wouldn't you say? A prime Nunn and McCallum, well GGG was not in his prime for Canelo. Mcalllum was 35 for his first fight ruled a draw with Toney and 40 for his last fight with him. Not exactly his prime.

 

No I wouldn't say he beat "Canelo twice". The 1st fight was controversial although still competitive, but the other 2 fights were scored correctly and fairly, Golovkin also had a controversial win over Derevyanchenko, do we count that as win for Derevyanchenko aswell ? going by your logic.

McCallum was older yes but was still competing at a very high level, McCallum would've been far and away the best win Golovkin had on his resume.

 

So you saying he GGG won the first fight then?

 

I had GGG winning the 1st fight 7-5, but I wouldn't say it's an outright robbery. I think there is an argument Canelo could of got the draw it was a competitive fight. Although one of the scorecards was definitely a disgrace 118-110 wasn't it ? But the 2nd fight I had no problem with Canelo getting the nod, he was the aggressor landed the harder punches.

 

I agree with you on the first fight, I had it 8-4. The second fight I had it GGG...so did lots of people.

Now do you think GGG was past his prime, as he was 35 for the first match and 36 for the second match?

I think McCallum was age same age when he drew with Toney.

 

Well there was no evidence of GGG being past his prime prior to Canelo fights, he hadn't had any real wars or tough fights, there was no real wear and tear there. Obviously your not going to be in your physical prime at 35, but like I said about Mike McCallum. Golovkin was still competing at a very high level, I mean he was considered the best Middleweight in the world at the time.

 

He was visibly slower GGG was by 35-36 . He was past his prime.

 

Golovkin blew away WBA Champ Murata recently. 5 years ago GGG was still prime. Just like Povetkin was prime at 35 when he went on a tear after the Klitschko loss.
Remember you said Haye ducked Vitali. . Vitali was 41. You picked Vitali to beat 33 year old Haye because Vitali was still good. Prime wasn't a factor

Carl Froch was better at 35 than he was at 25. He beat Groves by ko at 37. He was still prime. These are the facts.

Golovkin turned pro late and had an easy career. McCallum had a very hard career as he was fighting top opponents since his 20. He was still at his best at 35 against Toney. Most can see that in his performance. You mention his age only as a way to rubbish Toney who you hate.

 

The comedy angle I see. I'll leave it at this

 

What's that supposed to mean ? What part of my quote is a comedy angle ? All you've said is that McCallum, Nunn, didn't make alot of Middleweight title defences. But you know damn well historically and in a P4P sense Nunn, McCallum, rate alot higher than anyone Golovkin beat. What part of that statement isn't true or is in anyway a "comedic quote" ?

Put it this way would McCallum, Nunn, not be heavily favoured to beat all of Golovkin's opposition ?

 

No they would not.