Fury and Arum Holding Up Fury-Usyk, They Don't Think Usyk Deserves 50%

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Jan 16, 2023.


Should Usyk Receive 50%?

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  1. Yes of course, he's already a legend and has 4 world titles

    75.6%
  2. No, Arum is right, he doesn't deserve 50%, he should accept less

    24.4%
  1. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Nobody knows Fury outside the boxing following community either, mate. He might be known by non-boxing fans in the UK, but that's it - and the world doesn't revolve around a single country, you see. Even in the US, I highly doubt he would be a household name. Fury is absolutely not this "bigger than life" pop cultural character like Ali or Jordan or Maradona or Schumacher or Federer, despite what he or his fans would like to believe. These guys I mentioned are known by literally almost everyone in the world, even by those who couldn't give a damn about sports.
     
  2. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, it was a staring match. Boxing masterclass is an idiotic statement. If that is as good as boxing gets no wonder it is dead in the USA.
     
  3. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    It always makes me chuckle to think back how Fury labelled the Usyk-Joshua rematch "shite" and "the worst fight I have ever seen" and the members of the Fury Congregation started to parrot this nonsense straight away too. While in reality, the shittiest, most boring, least action-packed, least exciting HW title bout of the last at least 50 years (if not more) was indeed the Fury-Klitschko bout, without a shadow of a doubt. It was so bad that nothing even comes close. It was an absolute shite of a spectacle, and anyone who says otherwise is just a hopeless Fury fanboy. I'm yet to meet anyone who is not a Fury fanatic and thinks it was a good fight, let alone a great one. And I'm also yet to meet anyone who became a boxing fan because of that fight.
     
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  4. 007 373 5963

    007 373 5963 Active Member Full Member

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    50/50. For all those saying Usyk doesn't deserve it:

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  5. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is interesting because it shows Fury was happy with 50/50 with Usyk, despite being a massive 'brand' in comparison.
    No way Hearn-AJ would have done that in the same circumstances.
    That's why it's easier to get fights made with Fury and more evidence Hearn-AJ were the problem with him and Wilder too.
     
  6. Penne Pollo

    Penne Pollo Is Sniffing Your Kid's Hair banned Full Member

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    Usyk could be the GOAT but if he doesn't sell tickets and PPVs he doesn't deserve 50%.
     
  7. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    You think Fury sold as many tickets facing shop-worn Chisora as he will facing Usyk? Consider Usyk has FOUR world heavyweight titles, unification fights do usually make much more money.

    People complained about Fury-Chisora being a PPV, but they won't mind paying for this one.
     
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  8. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Arum would sell his watch to his son on his deathbed.
     
  9. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not sure about those "monster numbers". There is a reason Fury's PPV numbers haven't been released for his last three fights.

    It is widely known they took a loss on Fury v Wilder 3.
    Add the Whyte fight too IF they paid Fury his full purse.
    Then consider, how much money they made fighting Chisora for a third time...

    Fury's promoters artificially inflating his purses only works when the corrupt orgs decide the purse split. Demanding a bigger split in this case, is just a way to avoid the fight.

    Ducking fights by making "A-side" demands needs to be called out for what it is.
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk is

    The P4P King
    The Ring Magazine King
    The three-belt unified King
    The IBF King
    The WBA King
    The WBO King
    The former undisputed CW King
    The Former WBC CW King
    The former IBF CW King
    The former WBA CW King
    The former WBO CW King

    The former Olympic King

    The former World Amateur Championships King

    The former European King

    The former WSB King

    The former Muhammad Ali Trophy King

    The first HW to be P4P King in over 30 years

    King Usyk has more gold in his trophy cabinet than Fort Knox

    Fury is the WBC King

    The former three belt unified IBF, WBA & WBO King
    The former IBF King
    The former WBA King
    The former WBO King

    The former European King

    The former British King

    The former Commonwealth King

    And The Gypsy King



    Usyk has beaten more world champions in 20 fights than both Fury and The Dosser have in 80 fights combined and it gets even worse when you factor in that Fury and The Dosser have only ever beaten one prime world champion each and that would be The Dosser for Fury and Stiverne for The Dosser.

    The only other world champion The Dosser has beat was a shot to bits Liakhovich who was coming off back-to-back stoppage defeats, was 2-4 in his last 6 fights, 3 of said losses via stoppage, both wins against nobodies

    A 26 y/o Fury beat a Wlad who was four months away from his 40 birthday

    The other two champs are The Dosser, and a 36 y/o Cunningham when Fury was 24

    People crucified a 33 y/o Usyk for fighting a 36 y/o Chisora in what was just his second fight at HW and essentially his first real one because late notice sub Witherspoon only showed up to shell up and survive. That wasn't even ddecent sparring. Chisora is the oldest fighter Usyk has fought, or certainly of all the ones he's fought since moving up to the world level. Then Fury went and fought Chisora again two years after Usyk did.

    Usyk ain't raiding care homes and graveyards and unlike Fury he's a leprechaun facing giants not a giant facing leprechauns.

    Put some respeck on Usyk's name, and pay the man. The King only asks for parity nothing more

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  11. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Lol! Who has the majority of the titles again???

    Give Usyk 50% and STFU
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk should just walk away and fight Wilder next.

    That way, Wilder can bring his WBO, WBA, IBF and Ring Magazine belts to the ring when he fights Fury for a fourth time later this year.

    Fury-Joyce, Wilder-Usyk next.
     
  13. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its a 50/50 fight and the purse should be 50/50. Arum is just being a snarky old greedy *****.
     
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  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Much ado about nothing.
     
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  15. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury can box.