Is Floyds Resume One Of The Best Ever? Could you give me some insight, I'm not too familiar with it

I don't disagree with what you are saying but I do think that some of your points are off.

Diego Corrales. You can't just look at the record, you also have to look at the way he fights. It should have been obvious to anybody that this guy had very poor balance and really wasn't worth much as a fighter.

De La Hoya. Sure he was coming from a decision loss to Shane Mosley but this Hopkins fight that you mention is bogus. He went up to middleweight to fight longtime champion Bernard Hopkins. Come on, every one with half a brain new that this was a WWE type of moneygrab fight. De La Hoya had been having ups and downs for ages and he was coming from a Ko win over Mayorga. Doesn't mean he was the most credible opponent but mentioning Hopkins is just wrong.

Hatton was coming from being dominated by Kostya Tzyu for almost an entire fight before pulling out a victory by cheating and severely hurting Kostya in the process. Doesn't sound like any great opponent to me.

But yes overall you are right, this is the right way to rate a fighter, not on how many past and present WBF title holders they beat.

 

My frustration was that he stacked the deck too much in his favour. The bloke was an amazing fighter and would still have had a great record even if he fought fighters in their prime and with no stupid stipulations, albeit he would have had some losses. I would have rated him higher if he finished his career 45-5 but fought fighters in their prime, particularly PAC. His win over Hatton is underrated, people knock Hatton but he was a very decent fighter. Even in that fight the ref helped him which takes some of the gloss of it.

 

Hatton was absolutely nothing special as shown by Floyd, Pac and Tzyu. The little guy wouldn't even get into the ring with ODLH for a good payday even though ODLH was calling him out through the media all the time.

 

I don’t think losing to Floyd or PAC means he wasn’t a decent fighter.

 

Fight against Tszyu was stopped w/ Hatton up on the cards. And Oscar had zero business calling out a 5'6" 140er.

 

His resume was good earlier in his career and as he got older got considerably worse. He's still one of the most talented boxers I've ever seen though.

 

Bogus cards. Hatton was getting dominated and had to resort to illegal tactics which severely injured Tzyu. Worst thing is that Tzyu went with this mindset of not knocking out the hometown hero infront of his fans, being some nice guy. If he had instead just gone for the Ko like he was supposed to we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Hatton fought at 147, why not fight Oscar there?

 

Same thing with Joshua fighting usyk or Wilder fighting fury. Pride didn't allow them to admit they were 2nd best. A good thing in some ways as they're rising to a challenge and pushing themselves although some would argue a foolish move. Floyd is the latter camp I think

 

Eh, I dunno about these two man. I can see your point with Maidana and Castillo, but anytime these get brought up I always have a problem with them.

With Judah you gotta remember, before Roger got in the ring and came at him, Judah very intentionally fouled Mayweather by low blowing him and then punching him in the back of the head, so you could equally say he deserved to be disqualified for that. Booting Roger from the premises and letting the fight go on was the right decision. And besides, Floyd was outboxing him to that point anyways, so that DQ loss would have had an asterisk next to it that would have resulred in most people still considering him undefeated.

As for Ortiz, I don't think anything illegal happened. The referee did in fact motion for them to continue before he looked away, and Ortiz went in for a hug despite that. Was it poor sportsmanship on Floyd's part? Yeah, absolutely, but it was also bad sportsmanship when Ortiz smashed his head into Floyd's face and bust his lip open, which could have lead to problems for him down the line. Since the ref motioned for it to continue, I only see it as Floyd returning the favor.

 

Yep, Floyd lost 1st fight

A draw was fair

...Judah shouldve been DQd for the low blow tbh

Eh Ortiz did a lunging headbutt. Was happy Floyd did something back

Facts

Dont really see why that mattered

 

If you read the rules when a ref halts the contest, this time to deduct a point from Ortiz for the head butt he must verbally say " Box on" Cortez didn't. Look at his face he knew he'd screwed up. No way in hell should that have been called a KO win for Floyd. If the roles were reversed do you think for a second they'd have given a KO win to Ortiz??
The reason Ortiz head butted was he was sick of Floyd's elbow smashes in his face too

 

WHAT !!!!! ??? You were OK with Floyd caught red handed in his own home receiving750 ml saline drip ??
He broke 3 of the NSAC's own rules when he cheated. When asked if they were investigating this Bob Bennett said " Mr Mayweather did nothing wrong we will not be investigating" ROFL !! C'mon man do they think were all idiots??? We know why Floyd cheated & got caught so do the NSAC & it wasn't dehydration !!!
To put icing on the cake The same NSAC refused Pac, his previously agreed on,legal shot of Toradol pain killer for his rotator cuff injury they knew about. They claimed he didn't tick a box on a form claiming he was injured.
C'mon man you're not that naïve are you surely Obviously theyre as crooked as Floyd. Pac was beaten before he ever got in the ring

 

He didn't say "Box on" specifically, but after he finishes his reprimand of Ortiz he does say step away from him and say "Let's go" before he motions them to continue.

And you're absolutely right, if the roles had been reversed there's a good possibilty Ortiz would have been disqualified, but they would have been wrong to do that.