Tyson Luke Fury vs. Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk

I'm shocked how many people are picking Usyk over Fury.. Fury is too big for Usyk. If Usyk somehow pull this off he jumps right into top 30 ATG.

 

Ask @Serge, he's generally pretty clued up about the weights. Maybe Beterbiev was very confident, wanted to challenge himself. Beterbiev cuts to 175 in his mid-late 30's, whereas Usyk was competing at SHW at 25, 207-213 at 26 in the WSB and 221 at 34. There's definitely a significant natural weight gap between them, in addition to substantial differences in height and reach. It's still fair to regard Usyk as P4P No.1 imo, despite his struggles with a significantly smaller man.

 

There's no evidence that Beterbiev came in anywhere near 185, it sounds incredibly unlikely as he has never weighed that little while fighting at LHW. I mean, I can make the same claim. Usyk was actually 180 pounds, Beterbiev had x pound advantage.

If Usyk was coming into SHW at 207-213 around that time, and Beterbiev is coming into LHW at 190, don't you think claiming that Usyk had a 20 pound advantage when they fought at 201 is pretty ridiculous?

 

My friend, you are delusional.

It's reasonable to think Usyk will win on points, albeit I disagree.

It's very questionable that he will win by KO, when there is no evidence that Usyk carries the kind of power that could knockout a man who has avoided being KO'd by Heavyweight KO artists Wilder and Klitschko.

To think that Usyk will "school" Fury is beyond the pale.

"mentally fragile" = conquers addiction, 2 time champ, never KO'd, got up 5 times v Wilder, won big fights away from home, and under huge pressure from a hostile media in his earlier career.

"Bummy opponents can only land once" - So if Wlad, Chisora, Whyte, Wallin, Wilder, Cunningham, and Hamer are bums then who isn't? Do you have to be a World Champ (which two of those were) in order not to be a bum? Not to mention Wilder who by all evidence has the hardest punch in boxing landed repeatedly on Fury. So is Fury a supreme slickster who never gets landed on or is he hard as nails, because he seems to keep winning somehow mate?

Face it:

Fury is: taller, longer reach, hits harder, has AT LEAST comparable skills, a comparable chin, and AT LEAST comparable heart and will.

Usyk is: quicker (particularly on his feet) and a better gas tank (though this will be nullified if he starts taking damage as the fight goes on).


"who exactly has he shared the ring with has 1/10th the skillset Usyk possesses" - Speaking of previous opponents, they've both recently faced Chisora surely making him the best baseline for comparison? One guy went 12 rounds and won a reasonably close competitive bout, the other guy dominated Chisora and had him out of there in the 10th, but could easily have been sooner.

 

Usyk hurting Fury should NOT be part of his gameplan

The beauty of this fight for Usyk is he there is only 1 route to victory for him...and he knows it

That's in and out, quick powerless combinations where he can nab a slim points victory. Lateral movement. Ring circling like a crack demon.

If he makes Fury feel like he has to get after him it's over. If he makes Fury feel like he's losing the rounds clearly it's over for him.

He has to lul Fury into a boxing match...which is how Fury is going to fight early doors. If Usyk wins rounds clearly or hurts Fury then he is going after Usyk, no two ways about it....and Usyk might be tough but he's not that tough.

Personally I think Fury is going to hurt Usyk earlier than people expect to the head and then crack the body also. The clear Fury rounds will be clearer than the clear Usyk rounds. If Usyk survives then fair play.

 

I've heard him make this claim (in the interview where he called Usyk lucky and said he couldn't beat Joshua in a rematch), I just don't believe him. I mean, the guy is notoriously a weight bully, I really doubt he would give up weight. He goes through insane organ-killing dehydration to scrape a 2kg advantage over Joe Smith Jr, but gives up 10 to Usyk? I don't believe it.

He always runs his mouth about Usyk, I have no idea why, but he seems to dislike Usyk on a personal level. He once told a story about how Usyk tried to be his friend after a fight, and he told Usyk that if nobody else in the world was able to be his friend, maybe then he would be friends with his rival.

 

He tried out for HW, then competed in the World Qualifiers, competed in the WC, tried out for HW the next year, competed in the Olympic Qualifiers, and then competed in the Olympics. It's not like the guy woke up, was told "you can't be in LHW, you have to compete at HW" and then then shook off his slippers to fight Usyk, he had to fight at least two tournaments at the weight spanning months before he even got a spot in the WC. In fact, he fought at 201 for over a year before he fought Usyk at HW according to Boxrec.

Also, I use 190 because it was his 30 day weigh in vs Browne and I often see this number used.

 

Fury historically struggles against fighters who have superior footwork and agility than him. He's an oddity in that he matches up better against the super HWs than he does smaller HWs of yesteryear. I could see this one either way but don't think it's surprising so many are tipping Usyk.

 

Hahaha I stupidly visualized that.

 

Warren said any day now so what the heck is going on

 

At this point I genuinely get more pleasure from reading about boxing on here than I do from actual boxing. Which is the same as my porn:sex ratio.