Wlad Was Dying For A Rematch With Fury

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  1. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury screwed Wlad by not giving him the rematch, Plain and simple. Who would have is anybody's guess though I would lean toward Wlad as the victor in the rematch,
     
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  2. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Cunningham fight had nothing on the Povetkin fight and Cunningham's corner was cheating like crazy, bought him an extra minute of recovery time in between rounds by cutting his glove. And unlike Wlad, Fury was deducted a point early in the fight for sticking his head in, whereas Wlad got away with leading with a clinch and leaning, even jumping on Povetkin's back for the bulk of the 12 rounds, initiating more clinches than he landed punches.

    "He didn't contractually owe Povetkin a rematch."

    Of course he didn't: the Klitschko's were notorious A-siders and contracts almost invariably favour the side with more wealth and power, which unsurprisingly (given your censorious tendencies) you have an instinct to defend. If you had any sense of justice you would understand that Wlad got what he deserved from Fury, given Wlad's extensive history of cynical behaviour.
     
  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    A big stiff TELEGRAPHED robot is not going to beat Fury with aggression.

    Wlad's chin & stamina is not good enough to beat Fury

    Fury is just infinitely a better fighter. The only thing Wlad does better is raw right hand power...whoopty do that's 1 asset. Fury has 20 more assets. Take away his jab and he's done for.
     
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  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Why did Fury run away then? Why did he get busted by ukad in 15?
     
  5. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Fury took like not less than 10 rounds against this PEDs cheating clincher on his own soil, so Wlad deserved nothing, but the mocking he got. Plus, plenty of evidences Fury sunk into a drugs and booze hole after that fight, so didn't escape an easy rematch.
     
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  6. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury didn't get "busted" in 2015 (hence he fought at the start and end of the year), he was told to "watch the levels" after the Hammer fight, passed all the tests for the Wlad fight and the Hammer results only became an issue way after the fact in mid 2016, after Fury was heavily disliked in the media for making less than fawning comments about LGBT, feminism and "Zionist Jews who run the media and the banks". Whereas Joshua (who anyone with brain knows is juiced to the gills) made some disparaging comments about his hosts that got swept under the rug.

    Even if Fury hadn't become a morbidly obese alcoholic and cokehead, he'd have been right not to give Wlad a rematch:

    1. Fury was mandatory, which under normal circumstances means no rematch

    2. Wlad tried to stack the deck in every way possible

    3. Where was Povetkin’s rematch?

    4. Wlad gave Fury no credit, sore loser

    5. A-side Wlad lost by 8-4/9-3 margins according to the judges in Germany (and wider according to most neutral observers), Fury had nothing to prove

    6. Fury would have got no credit for beating a 40+, more worn, dethroned Wlad in Britain in a rematch and had Fury won by a less clear margin (let alone lost), the narrative would have been that Wlad 1. Had an off-night in Düsseldorf 2. Lost due to being past his prime

    7. Fury denied Wlad a chance to avenge his loss or even improve on his performance and salvage his pride and reputation by going out on his shield, which hurts Wlad a lot more than losing again because there will always be a “What if?”

    8. Dethroned Wlad went on to go life and death with Joshua in London 17 months later coming off a layoff, which raised Fury’s stock more than beating Wlad again and retiring him
     
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  7. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    He had his license to box suspended. That's busted in my book. The contract stipulated a rematch and he ducked it. Ducked as in showed up for pressers then cried off, then the license was suspended and he blew up to 400lb. Povetkin deserved a rematch? Wtf you on about? He was a challenger and dropped three times and never ahead in the fight. You bring up 41 y/o London Wlad, yes that guy whups and kos fat Fury and you know it.
     
  8. MAD_PIGE0N

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    "Had the license to box suspended." :biggrin:

    Povetkin is the boxer who suffered the worst wrestling in the history of boxing.
     
  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Be honest here: you said 2015. Tell me again when Fury had his boxing licence suspended.

    You trust these blatantly corrupt institutions (or perhaps agree with their corruption), I don't. Fury was being witchunted for comments he made, nothing more.

    If anyone is crying about it it's the big Ukrainian dosser Wlad Klitschko, who even today was moaning about Fury, calling him a clown etc. Well guess what? Wlad got schooled by a clown. And it's beautiful that he never got another chance to go out on his shield against Fury.

    Povetkin was ridden like a rodeo all night in what was essentially a wrestling match with a corrupt referee acting as Wlad's co-conspirator. Of course Wlad wasn't going to give him a rematch, just as he was never going to fight fair if he could help it. What goes around comes around.

    Wlad couldn't lay a glove on Fury when he was a 39 year old active champion, even his judges had Fury winning by wide margins. And even at 41 and 17 months inactive, KO-less in 2.5 years, Wlad should have shredded AJ, like the much smaller, much lighter punching Ruiz did. But somehow he managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
     
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  10. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You'll be permabanned multiple times before i lose interest and stop posting. Everything you post is just a clowns attempt to pump up Fury's shitty resume.
     
  11. cuchulain

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    Poor scoring for an even poorer fight.

    Fury won no more than three rounds.

    Wlad won one round, two at most.

    The rest of the rounds were a disgrace !

    I wouldn't even call the other round even, I would say for many of the rounds, both fighters lost.

    So the overall decision was correct, even if most of the fight was a farce.

    Not since Valev fought Holyfield, did I see such a disgraceful display of fake pugilism.
     
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  12. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The ref really should have threatened to disqualify both, in damn near every round.
     
  13. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pretty sure, Chisora got the Vitali fight instead of Helenius at the time. Fury (who had beaten Chisora) was still making commonwealth title defences around 2011, his step-up fight being against Cunningham, a year after Vitali v Chisora. Fury also didn't start targeting world-level opposition like Haye until 2013. Then add in, from 2012 to the Klitschko title fight Fury was often fighting for WBO belts.

    Not sure why you think Vitali (WBC champion) was avoiding Fury in 2012. Was there supposed to be a fight? I really don't remember anything about it.
     
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  14. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury fans invent lots of bs to blow up Fury's pathetic resume.
     
  15. Boxed Ears

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    I believe Wlad was clearly highly motivated for Fury the first time. He was disgusted at something that was simply his nature by that point and that is both a little on him and a little on something beyond him. Wlad was feeling it in the lead-up, talking up huge amounts of sparring, the ring padding, clearly wearing lifts to do photo ops. He wanted it. It just wasn't in him for that guy. And I think Fury knew it from jump, almost.
     
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